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SEC Power Poll, Week 4

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Here we are in week four of the college football season, and I can say that from a clarity standpoint, I believe we are in pretty good shape at the top of the SEC.  We are beginning to see the cream rise up, some of the pretenders exposed, and some general movement toward the stratification we always see in this league — a very thick layer of cream, and then the rest.

Obviously, a lot of shaking out happened when Ole Miss bit the big one at South Carolina.  Ole Miss was then ranked among the nation’s elite, and South Carolina was down in the high 20′s.  No more.  Ole Miss was exposed as being significantly weaker than the top ten, and as of right now, nobody is anxious to jump back on the Rebel Express anytime soon.  But in the SEC, as someone thoughtfully reminded me the other day, redemption is always only a game or two away, and in Ole Miss’ case, their opportunity will come Oct 10 when they host the Tide.

Speaking of the Crimson Tide, UK gets the Elephants in Commonwealth in a few days, and as we work our way toward that game, I’ll be speaking with the folks over at Roll Bama Roll, the SB Nation Alabama blog, tonight at 7:30 for their podcast.  I will also be putting up a thread in the FanPosts where I will ask all those who frequent the Kentucky games in Lexington to post stuff like things to do, places to go, tailgating traditions and so forth so we can make it easier for our guests from points south to find their way to a good time during the game.

But back to the power poll.  The aggregated results can be found at Team Speed Kills, as usual, but my ballot follows the jump.

Here is my ballot:

Team cWL W-L bWL SoS This week MoV PF-PA Next opponent Polls Remarks
Florida 2-0 4-0 2-0 45.65 open 38.3 182-29 at LSU 1 Alabama may be more complete, but somebody has to stop the Florida offense.
Alabama 1-0 4-0 2-0 52.52 at Kentucky 27.5 162-52 at Mississippi 3 Barbecued the Hawgs in Tuscaloosa. Wildcat is next on the menu.
LSU 2-0 4-0 3-0 57.17 at Georgia 13.5 115-61 Florida 4 Eked by MSU with a miraculous goal-line stand. This team keeps winning, but questions abound.
Georgia 2-0 3-1 3-1 60.58 LSU 1.0 123-119 at Tennessee 18,14 Struggled to escape the Sun Devils between the hedges. The 4-point total MOV has got to be a record low for a 3-1 team.
Auburn 1-0 4-0 2-0 51.65 at Tennessee 21.0 181-97 at Arkansas 27,28 Let Ball State score a surprising number of points. Can they outscore Monty Kiffin’s defense?
South Carolina 1-1 3-1 2-1 51.85 South Carolina State 7.0 98-70 Kentucky 28,29 Put Ole Miss in their place. Cupcake on the menu this week.
Mississippi 0-1 2-1 0-1 46.13 at Vanderbilt 23.7 107-36 Alabama 21,18 Exposed by the Gamecocks, can they redeem themselves versus the Commodores, or slide back into obscurity?
Mississippi State 1-2 2-2 1-2 58.76 Georgia Tech 5.3 110-89 Houston This team is playing surprisingly tough, but they get another test versus the Rambln’ Wreck this week.
Tennessee 0-1 2-2 0-2 55.27 Auburn 13.3 125-72 Georgia Gave up 319 passing yards against Ohio? Holy pass protection, Batman!
Kentucky 0-1 2-1 1-1 52.70 Alabama 4.0 80-68 at South Carolina 31-0 in the first quarter? Really? Gator gon’ getcha, baby. And…Bonus! UK gets #3 Alabama next!
Vanderbilt 0-2 2-2 0-2 47.79 Mississippi 9.5 93-55 at Army Handled 0-4 Rice with ease, but gets an angry Ole Miss team next.
Arkansas 0-2 1-2 0-2 61.04 Texas A&M -0.3 96-97 Auburn After being crushed by the Elephants, the Hawgs try their luck in the Big 12.

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SEC Stats: Defensive Thievery

Yesterday, we posted the updated numbers for our “Ball Security” statistic.

Wanting to get a better idea for who’s holding onto the football, we use this stat to compare a team’s giveaways to the total number of offensive snaps that team has run.

You can find the results right here.

But what about on the other side of the ball?  Which teams do a better job of forcing turnovers?

Our method is similar to the “Ball Security” comparison. 

We look at the total number plays a defense has played and compare that number to their total number of takeaways.

We call this “Defensive Thievery.”  And here are the numbers through four weeks of the 2009 season.




Rank
School
Total Plays
Takeaways
Plays/Takeaway
1
Auburn
283
12
23.58
2
Vanderbilt
268
10
26.80
3
Ole Miss
257
6
28.55
4
Tennessee
237
8
29.62
5
LSU
298
10
29.80
6
Miss State
210
7
30.00
7
S. Carolina
244
8
30.50
8
Florida
249
8
31.12
9
Arkansas
185
5
37.00
10
Kentucky
193
5
38.60
11
Alabama
231
4
57.75
12
Georgia
274
3
91.33




Observations:

* The value of this statistic can be seen when comparing Tennessee and LSU.  Both teams have played four games.  LSU has forced 10 turnovers, Tennessee 8.  So the Tigers’ D wreaks more havoc, right?  Not when you factor in the fact that LSU has need 60 more plays to record those turnovers.  UT’s defense is actually more likely to force a turnover than LSU’s.

* Let’s look at the in-conference games for this week in terms of turnovers:


Alabama at Kentucky

When Alabama has the ball — Alabama turns the ball over just once every 94.33 plays.  Kentucky forces a turnover once every 38.60 plays.

When Kentukcy has the ball — Kentucky turns the ball over once every 40.80 plays.  Alabama forces a turnover once every 57.75 plays.

Advantage: Alabama


LSU at Georgia

When LSU has the ball — LSU turns the ball over just once every 80.33 plays.  Georgia forces a turnover just once every 91.33 plays.

When Georgia has the ball — Georgia turns the ball over once every 19.75 plays.  LSU forces a turnover once every 29.80 plays.

Big Advantage: LSU


Ole Miss at Vanderbilt

When Ole Miss has the ball — Ole Miss turns the ball over once every 31.50 plays.  Vandy forces a turnover every 26.80 plays.

When Vandy has the ball — Vandy coughs up the ball every 60.60 plays.  Ole Miss forces a turnover every 28.55 plays.

Slight Advantage: Vanderbilt


Auburn at Tennessee

When Auburn has the ball — Auburn turns the ball over once every 59.80 snaps.  Tennessee forces a turnover every 29.62 plays.

When Tennessee has the ball — Tennessee turns the ball over once every 24.54 plays.  Auburn forces a turnover every 23.58 plays.

Advantage: Auburn

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Josh Cody, a College Football Hall of Famer

Read Bill Traughber’s latest Commodore History Corner on Josh Cody, one of the most decorated football players in Vanderbilt history.
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Charlie Strong To Be Inducted Into Hall Of Fame

UF football associate head coach <b>Charlie Strong</b> will be inducted into the University of Central Arkansas Sports Hall of Fame this weekend in Conway, Ark.
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View From the Booth with Scott Howard

Scott Howard, The Voice of the Bulldogs, recaps the Georgia-Arizona State game in this week's blog.
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Out of Bounds

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I listened to 105.9 Out of Bounds’ segment featuring the Clarion Ledger’s Kyle Veazey (I guess that was Veazey. I missed his intro). this morning, focusing on Mississippi State’s scheduling. Kyle reminds me of Eeyore from Winnie the Pooh. He always sounds sad. Whoa is Mississippi State. They can’t afford to schedule anybody. You would have thought it was raining in the studio this morning. Lighten up. Then again, I guess I’d be sad, too, if I had to spend time in press boxes in Hattiesburg, at Middle Tennessee State, and at Louisiana Tech. Do those schools even have press boxes?

That said, I’m enjoying the Out of Bounds show. I’m glad Jackson has a show focusing on Mississippi sports in the mornings, because that’s just about the only way you’ll ever hear any coverage of Ole Miss, Mississippi State, or USM on ESPN Radio. The big guys like Mike & Mike and Cowherd rarely mention Ole Miss, and that’ll be especially true now that the Rebs lost Saturday.

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True Courage

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GREAT story by Rick Cleveland on Chucky Mullins and his legacy. I still remember that game against Vanderbilt and where I was (pacing the floor of my parent’s bedroom listening to the game on the radio). I’m sure most of you do, too. The inspirational part is the way Mullins conducted himself after the tragic paralysis. Facing each day with a smile after suffering the loss of your body is true courage.

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Miles On Miss State

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Once again, to serve you, the ATVS reader, I try and cut through the BS and translate Les Miles’ weekly lunch from Coachspeak to English.

WHAT HE SAID: “Certainly our football team met this morning and reviewed the fact that we’ve played four games, and we have four victories. That’s certainly where we want to be. Certainly we want to improve and play better along the way. I thought that there were some really good things there at the game. First of all, we had a four-hour delay in leaving town, and the weather certainly didn’t cooperate to start the game. I felt like our guys did what they had to do to get a victory.”

WHAT HE MEANT: “We needed a frickin’ goal line stand to beat Moo State.  The only good thing about the trip was the four hour delay because that was four hours I didn’t have to spend in Starkville.  The offensive line has been running gassers since we got back home.”

WHAT HE SAID: “I think defensively we played a very good game. I still think that there were three plays or so in that game where we can play smarter. We missed a tackle on one that led to a big gain, a broken play and one that should well have been tackled in the backfield that nets out again in another big play and a mistimed interception that personally could’ve been a big turnaround and gone the other way. Yet, our defense is playing with great effort, and in my opinion, if it continues to play with that style of effort and corrects those mistakes, it can be a very strong defense as we go forward.”

WHAT HE MEANT: “The defense played well if you don’t count the first three and half quarters.”

WHAT HE SAID: “Chad Jones was recognized not only for his play on defense but that great 93-yard punt return as the National Defensive Player of the Week. Certainly he was recognized by his teammates this morning as he was the MVP (of the game)”

WHAT HE MEANT:  Chad saved my job.  Is there a booster here who can buy him a car or something?  CHAD JONES! WOOOOO!!!”

WHAT HE SAID: “We still want to run the football. It’s too fundamental to me not to be important, and I want that. I want it for Charles Scott and that offensive line and Keiland Williams, and I want to be able to come off the football. But again, the defense can choose to play everybody inside, and that makes it a much more difficult position to run the football, and I wanted them to throw it. I wanted our guys to throw the football against that gaming front of Mississippi State’s.”

WHAT HE MEANT: “Wow, does our run game suck or what?  Screw it.  I’m out of ideas.  Let’s just throw it to LaFell on every play.” 

WHATE HE SAID: “If you look at special teams, the return that Chad Jones puts on is a great decision on a bouncing ball that he picks up and cleaning fields and then returns with great personal effort. We looked at that again several times this morning, and you look at Charles Alexander at about the midfield stripe at about 50 yards, driving a defender away from Chad Jones who’s returning the punt. You see Patrick Peterson directing traffic, and it was truly a great effort. There were guys who had great blocks like Brandon Taylor, who really had the first block that sprung the return, and Perry Riley got one on about the midfield stripe. Again, it was a great personal effort by Chad Jones, and certainly it was timely.”

WHAT HE MEANT: “See?  See?  Team effort!  I can get these individuals to play as a team.  Stick that in your piehole.  Well, uh… yeah, it still was a pretty great individual effort.  CHAD JONES!  WOOOO!!!!”

WHAT HE SAID: “We had 11 points given to our opponent on special teams miscues, and virtually all three were snaps. What has to happen is we have to execute the snap extremely well, and we cannot go into a big game with the opportunity to make big plays and have something so fundamental to us break down. We feel like we can address that, and it’s a very correctable mistake, so if you go forward from there, improve that offensive running game, enjoy the fact that someone puts a lot of guys in the box so we can throw it, take away the special teams miscues and play smarter on defense, that’s where we need to be.

WHAT HE MEANT: “We left Alex Russian on the side of the highway in Mississippi.”

WHAT HE SAID: “At this point, the focus has to turn to the very next game. We’re fortunate to be 4-0; we’d like to be 5-0, and only the next opponent stands between us and that goal. Everybody talks about rankings. Rankings have never made any difference to me and not to our football team. We understand we earn where we finish. The No. 4 ranking is certainly a spot, and that’s it. It’s close enough to be where you want to be in the end, but there’s no position except for the final ballot. When we get to the end of the season, that’s where we want to be ranked highly.”

WHAT HE MEANT: “Rankings mean everything to me.  Are you kidding?  People in this town flip out even when we’re in the top five.  I have “For Sale” signs in my front lawn.  And we’re 4-0!  What does it take?  You people are insane.  Seriously.  If I beat Georgia, will you then believe I can coach?  They’re the only SEC school I haven’t beaten.  Is that what y’all are waiting for?”

WHAT HE SAID: “I think we’re developing that position (fullback). It’s not come along fast enough necessarily, but I don’t know that we can make it come along any faster. I don’t know that we’ve given it enough snaps in games to develop it, and it’s not something that we can enforce. It has to come naturally, and I think those guys are doing a good job. Frankly, we’re opting for other personnel groups at times over our normal two-back set.”

WHAT HE MEANT: “We have no fullback.  Deal.”

WHAT HE SAID: “They are the best players, and I can tell you that I’m critical. There are certainly ways that we can improve on the offensive line, but I think their play has probably been with the exception of pass protection in several instances pretty good. When we throw it, we have to throw it efficiently. We have to catch it and move the chains. We have to make big plays, so those teams that choose to load the box and allow us to throw it will have to pay a terrible price. I think Brandon LaFell is in that position. I think Terrance Toliver is in that position just for those days, and we have to continue there. I think that our line is performing. Are they performing at the level they want? No. Are they performing at the level I want? No, but I think that they are giving us an opportunity to win and should continue to develop along those lines.”

WHAT HE MEANT: “The offensive line?  What do you want to know about the line?  HEY!  What’s that thing over there?! … How about those receivers?”

WHAT HE SAID: “Jacob Cutrera was nicked, and Baker came in. On his first two plays, you could tell that he just did not exactly feel comfortable with where he was at. On the fourth-down play, he makes an instinctive hit down low, and Chad Jones follows it up. I can only tell you that it was a big play. It was one that he’ll remember for a long time.”

WHAT HE MEANT: “CHAD JONES! WOOOO!!!!!”

WHAT HE SAID: “Depending on the down and distance, third and long is where your defense has to get off the field, and you have to have an advantage when you’re in third and long. If you’re third and five or greater, you’d like 35 to 45 percent to be their offense’s success. On third down and short, you’d like it to be 50/50.”

WHAT HE MEANT: “Third and Chavis.  I get it.  Shut up.  The Washington game was a month ago. Get a new cliché.”

WHAT HE SAID (on running to the short side): “One of the things that their defense did was that they overloaded, in my opinion, and played some of their best personnel to the field, so the opportunity to go and take advantage of some guys that we felt we had some mismatches against were to the boundary. Some of our calls were put just that way.”

WHAT HE MEANT: “Whoops.  My bad.”

WHAT HE SAID: “Baker would work in. We don’t anticipate Cutrera will have an issue with going. We think that he’ll be fine. There are a number of guys there like Ace Foyil that will work in there.”

WHAT HE MEANT: “Cutrera will be healthy, right?  Right?”

WHAT HE SAID: “They are a very talented team. Their quarterback has stepped in. He has a strong arm. He makes great decisions with the ball. Of course, A.J. Green is making big plays for them on the perimeters, and the tailbacks can all run the football, so I don’t know if I’m surprised. They are certainly a very capable offense.”

WHAT HE MEANT: “You’re asking me if I’m surprised Georgia is good?  Are you an idiot?”


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ATVSSECOSPPOW: Week 4

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Naming our ATVS SEC Offensive Speed Position Player of the Week was a very tough call this week.  On the one hand, Greg McElroy had an outstanding day against Arkansas, throwing for 291 yards on 24 attempts with 3 touchdowns and 0 interceptions, while maintaining positive rushing yards.  On the other hand, A.J. Green single-handedly kept Georgia from getting beat by Arizona State with 8 catches for 153 yards and a touchdown.  He had the majority of Georgia’s 242 receiving yards and its own receiving touchdown.

It was a difficult decision, and I am mindful of the inherent bias against wide receivers and in favor of quarterbacks.  After all, for every reception a receiver makes, a quarterback had to throw it to him, but a quarterback throws to lots of receivers, so will have a lot more completions and yards passing than any receiver will have receptions and yards receiing.  But in the end I’m going with Greg McElroy, probably for two reasons:

  • He did it in a conference game, and
  • A. J. Green won last week.

Fair?  Hardly.  But this is the blogosphere.  Fair hardly counts at all.

Let’s give Greg McElroy credit though.  Alabama thoroughly blasted Arkansas 35-7, but it’s a little deceptive.  If you take out Trent Richardson‘s 52 yard touchdown run, the production Alabama got from its tailbacks was modest.  Other than that run, they got 79 yards on 38 carries with 1 touchdown.  It’s not like they were moving the ball at will no matter what they did.  They really needed McElroy’s production, because they weren’t getting it from their running backs for the most part.  Greg McElroy made that game a blowout  by spreading the ball around to 9 different receivers, none of whom caught more than 3 passes.

Of course, Arkansas’s secondary had something to do with that too.  And that’s why I almost went with Green, who was almost all of Georgia’s passing production.  Heck, he accounted for almost half of Georgia’ total yardage. 

Other players had really good weeks and need recognition.  Brandon Lafell had a 100-yard game and 2 touchdown receptions in a conference game.  Chris Todd had the best QB numbers of any quarterback, albeit against a cupcake.   Tim Tebow was having a great game before he got injured.  Vanderbilt running back Warren Norman had a great night, rushing for 119 yards on 11 attempts with a touchdown.  Anthony Dixon of MSU had a 100 yard effort in a losing performance, which may have been a winning performance if he’d gotten the ball on either 3rd or 4th down at the end of the game.  Anyway, here’s your opportunity to name your SECOSPPOW.

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Who should be the And The Valley Shook SEC Offensive Speed Position Player of the Week?


  19 votes | Results


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    SEC Power Poll Results

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    SEC Power Poll Results

    ‘Bama takes the lead for the first time this season. Follow the links to see where the rest of the SEC ended up.


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