Expect Weis To Break Brantley In Slowly… As He Did Brady
June 21st, 2011 04:33 PM║ Posted By: John Pennington ║ Permalink
║ Schools: Florida
Tags: New England, Notre Dame, QB, Tom Brady
Just two years ago, CBS analyst Gary Danielson — one of the best in the business, by the way — ranked John Brantley among the top five quarterbacks in the SEC. That was while Brantley was still serving as Tim Tebow’s backup.
Needless to say, Brantley failed to live up to the hype last season. Part of the blame for that disappointment should go to a coaching staff that couldn’t or wouldn’t adjust its offense as it had years earlier for Chris Leak. Part of the blame should also go to a set of skill players who fell just as short of their recruiting rankings as Brantley did. And a chunk of the blame goes on the QB himself.
With quarterback wiz Charlie Weis now in Gainesville, one of the questions I’ve been asked most by radio hosts across the South is: “Will Weis fix Brantley?”
My answer: “Yes. Eventually.”
But for those expecting Weis to use Brantley as he used Brady Quinn back in 2005 at Notre Dame, you might be disappointed.
Weis loves the passing game and when he arrived in South Bend he immediately started slinging the ball around the hallowed ground of Notre Dame Stadium. Quinn threw 97 more passes in his junior year under Weis than he did in his sophomore year under Ty Willingham.
All told, Weis called on Quinn to throw the ball 450 times over the course of Notre Dame’s 12-game season. That’s a whopping 37.5 attempts per game. But Quinn already had two years of starts under his belt by that point. He’d already thrown 685 passes in his career before Weis got his hands on him. In other words, Quinn could handle more weight being put on his strong right shoulder.
Florida’s new offensive coordinator didn’t inherit that kind of experienced signal-caller in Gainesville. Brantley’s lone season as a starter resulted in just 329 pass attempts, five losses, numerous boos, and a career’s worth of bad memories. Now he’s having to learn a new system (albeit one that should be much better suited to his skills).
Weis’ Irish teams usually attempted around 450 passes per season. The exception was 2007 when Notre Dame was breaking in a new starter in Jimmy Clausen. Toss in a Clausen injury and Weis’ team threw only 389 passes that season, far off the coach’s usual pace.
For an even better example of what we at MrSEC.com expect Weis to do with Brantley this fall, we suggest you think of Tom Brady. No, not 2010 NFL MVP Tom Brady, but 2001 backup-turned-starter Tom Brady.
People forget that Brady was for the most part a clutch caretaker during New England’s first Super Bowl run. He didn’t carry the Patriots’ offense as he has the past few seasons in Foxboro. Instead, he managed it and — when necessary — he pulled off some late-game magic.
By the numbers, Brady threw 500 passes in the 17 games he started in 2001 (29.4 attempts per start or about eight fewer per game than Quinn in his first year under Weis). Brady threw 25 or fewer passes in six games that year. But four of those six under-25-attempt games came in his first seven starts. In his final 10 starts of the year, Brady threw fewer than 25 passes only twice.
Unlike with the experienced Quinn at Notre Dame, Weis took his time to break-in the less experienced Brady at New England.
Something else to consider: Like Florida, New England lacked a workhorse back in 2001. The Patriots of that season relied on trick plays — end-arounds, reverses, double-reverses, flea-flickers, and direct snaps to backs — to keep defenses on their toes and off of Brady.
Patriot wide receivers Troy Brown and David Patten combined for 16 rushing attempts that season. That might seem like a small number to Florida fans used to seeing Urban Meyer’s spread offense, but for 2001 professional football, Weis was using over-the-top gimmickry.
At this point, no one knows what exactly to expect from Weis’ first Florida offense or his quarterback, but here’s guessing Florida’s ’11 offense will look somewhat similar to New England’s ’01 offense:
1. A safe passing game that doesn’t call on the quarterback to have to carry the team in the early weeks.
2. A running back by rotation.
3. And numerous gimmick plays utilizing the team’s speedsters (Jeff Demps and Chris Rainey) to keep defenses off balance.
Obviously, if the Gators find themselves behind in games, Weis will have to let his QB put the ball in the air more often. But if the Gator defense lives up to expectations, we look for Weis to gradually break Brantley into the offense just as he did with Brady a decade ago.
Last year UF'soffense was an absolute mess. They ran in what, 3 different QB's during a normal game - they ran the option - they tried to be Tebow again - but if you look at Tebows last season - it wasn't impressive. I was able to call about 75% of their plays.....a jumbled offense with no clear direction. bad decision making. Don't blame the college kid - blame the coaches.
John:
There is quite a bit of this type of speculation {hope?} going on among gator fans. We know we need vast improvement at QB from last season. I appreciate your analysis, and your figures to back it up with regards to Weis's history. Hope Brantley follows suit.
Also, your site continually compiles an amazing number of articles as well your take on some of them. In addition, you then write your own analysis or opinion on lots of topics like last year's conference expansion stuff. Keep up the great work and don't let too many of the insensed idiots who grasp at a humorous dig by you as being all anti-their team.
I would like to know where your upcoming radio appearances will be in advance with a link posted so we could hear you.
Thanks, John. SEC, SEC.
Cal,
For this and next year that back is Mike Gillislee. 5' 11" 200 pounds. He's a mix of speed and power. He'll be the "workhorse" until Matt Jones gets here and takes the reins
John,
I look for Florida to look alot like the Chiefs last year. Dexter McCluster will be played by Chris Rainey, Jamaal Charles will be played by Jeff Demps, Thomas Jones will be played by Mike Gillislee, Tony Moeaki will be played by Jordan Reed, and hopefully Quinton Dunbar, Omarius Hines, or Deonte Thompson will play Dwayne Bowe. The Weis QB comparison shouldn't be made Brantley to Brady but rather Brantley to Cassel. Cassel had a down right awful 2009. Bring in Weis and Matt has a very solid year. 2009 Matt threw 16 tds and 16 int's... where have I heard that kind of stat like before??? (Brantley 2010 9 TDS 10 INTS) Matt in 2010 27 TDS 7 INTS.
Thats what I hope and expect from Weis. Brantley won't be handled like Brady. Brady was a nobody lets just get him through the year, NFL QB in 2001. Brantley had a awful year in a awful fitted system but he's still a former Gatorade player of the year. The tools are all there. Time to see what Weis can do with him and the rest of former five star talents.
As a Patriots fan, I watched every game in 2001 (and since). And last year, as a fan of Weis and Romeo Crennel I watched the Cheifs when I could.
The two approaches were very similar.
John
What I was getting in very long form was that Brady was a QB that needed to be taught not fixed. Cassel and Brantley are QB's that needed to be and need to be fixed. Brantley and Cassel had a season before (or a few in Cassel's case) Weis. Brady didn't.
John Brantley and pressure don't mix. It doesn't matter what the play calls are going to be or the ratio if our offensive line is the same as it was for ten out of thirteen games last year.
I think UF will use 4 tailbacks. Demps and Rainey as the speed guys obvisouly. I think Rainey will benefit frim lining up in a deep I formation. it should allow him to take advantage of his vision, especially on delayed draws.
The other 2 guys are Mike Gillislee (who I really like and thought should have had more touches) and Mack Brown. Gillislee is kind of a combo back good combination of speed and size. Mack brown is the biggest of the 4 and was a big deal recruit last year. he red shirted and was banged up in the spring. Most Gator fans are very hopeful he can become the bigger back that UF hasn't had in a long time.
UFs o line needs to solidify. if that happens and they can get steady play from Brantley, there is no reason to think this UF team can't compete for Atlanta deep into the schedule.
as a UF guy, I'd settle for a Brian Burgdorf type of year. I think UF is going to be very run heavy, field position, play defense type of team. UF was a busted assignment against LSU from having 9 wins last year....when everything seemed to be a grease fire. I think UF can get to 9 maybe 10 wins this year if Brantley can manage the game, make plays when he needs to, and ensure that UF is plus 2 in TOs at the end of each game.
Does Florida have a power back yet? Demps and Rainey are great for running reverse's and all that crap Meyer ran, but who is going to tote the rock up the middle for Florida? That's been missing since Fred Taylor and before him Emmitt Smith.






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