Comments on: While A&M Waits For SEC To Find #14, Big 12 Threatens A Deadline http://mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/ Up to the minute SEC football and basketball news Tue, 18 Jun 2013 20:30:32 +0000 hourly 1 By: @mikerapp http://mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/comment-page-1/#comment-15757 @mikerapp Sun, 21 Aug 2011 01:04:33 +0000 http://www.mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/#comment-15757 If you're picking between Virginia Tech and Missouri, it is no contest. Tech is not a state-wide brand in Virginia and sucks in every sport except football. Missouri is legit in every single sport, including baseball and basketball (men's and women's). And I'm sorry, there are more TV sets in either St. Louis or Kansas City than there are in the entire state of Virginia.

The SEC won't beat the ACC in ACC territory. So be it. Fire a shot over the Big 10's bow by taking Mizzou. They are a natural rival with Arkansas, too.

]]> By: FranktheAg http://mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/comment-page-1/#comment-15532 FranktheAg Thu, 18 Aug 2011 16:12:12 +0000 http://www.mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/#comment-15532 With our without ND, A&M is all in for the SEC. There is no turning back. Now if the SEC decides to wait, I think A&M will still announce its plans to exit the B12 and would pursue an invite from the Big Ten or Pac 12. There is no scenario that works with A&M remaining in the Big12.

]]> By: ViciousDawg http://mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/comment-page-1/#comment-15527 ViciousDawg Thu, 18 Aug 2011 16:04:58 +0000 http://www.mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/#comment-15527 If the Big 12-2 is forcing A&M's hand with a time table how can they then ask for $$$$$ to leave the conference?

]]> By: lazlo toth http://mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/comment-page-1/#comment-15521 lazlo toth Thu, 18 Aug 2011 15:31:57 +0000 http://www.mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/#comment-15521 james,

the problem is the way information travels today

#1 some homer blogger in his mom's basement who never played sports puts up a blog with nothing but cheeto's and hawaiian punch to fuel his brain leading to all sorts of vivid fantasy dreams.

#2 a reporter gathers data from reliable sources and crunches numbers to arrive at a series of opinions that reflect they way college presidents think

In the old days, #2 ruled the bandwidth, but today #1 has lead the way for the 120 character crowd like peter piper led the rats

man I miss the "good old days"

]]> By: Don http://mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/comment-page-1/#comment-15493 Don Thu, 18 Aug 2011 01:18:55 +0000 http://www.mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/#comment-15493 If I'm not mistaken it's playing out exactly like last year for Nebraska, deadline and all. All that remains to be seen is whether the Aggies can get away for a cool 8 Million like Nebraska and Colorado did. thanks for all the info JP.

]]> By: mrcooper44 http://mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/comment-page-1/#comment-15492 mrcooper44 Thu, 18 Aug 2011 00:52:24 +0000 http://www.mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/#comment-15492 A couple things that I have thought about the past couple days regarding SEC candidates to 14 are- TX Tech and doubling down on the state of Texas- Great idea but does the SEC want any more Texas drama at this point in the game? It seems UT is not going quietly to any conference so does SEC need to pull the trigger now? Missouri- is much more valuable to the SEC than the Big 10 even if Miz prefers the Big 10; once the Big brought in Nebraska and already having Iowa and Illinois, Missouri's value to the Big dropped significantly because Big 10 basically already has those markets now. But, for the SEC it would be a land grab opening up completely new markets. WV/VTech- either one is a great grab, but I wonder would SEC want both in the future? I keep reading about VTech being the real catch but this maybe isn't the right time for it. Well, there probably will be the right time for it, but if SEC gets WV now, will they still want VTech later? SEC has great options and this is a great site.

]]> By: james snowden http://mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/comment-page-1/#comment-15490 james snowden Thu, 18 Aug 2011 00:47:02 +0000 http://www.mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/#comment-15490 obviously if the big 12 thought the aggies were going to stay in the big12, they wouldn't put out a deadline. THat's not the best way to say, hey, we want you guy to stay. we need you here. now tell us that or else. The new chancellor at A&M even said he wants to be in the sec and isn't looking back. To me it's just the big 12 already ticked off at the aggies. If you think it's bad now, wait until football season. If you doubt that, ask Nebraska in the a&m game last year.

]]> By: hog http://mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/comment-page-1/#comment-15484 hog Thu, 18 Aug 2011 00:00:25 +0000 http://www.mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/#comment-15484 IF byu and ND both joined the big 12, than texas a&M isn't leaving it for the sec. BYU probably would accept an offer but no way ND would bring their football program into the big 12. THe only shot for ND and the big 12 would be the same deal ND gets from the big east, football Independence but full member for other sports. Further, for nd to join the big 12, they would need texas a&M to stay. It could happen but doubtful.

]]> By: AllTideUp http://mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/comment-page-1/#comment-15474 AllTideUp Wed, 17 Aug 2011 23:28:13 +0000 http://www.mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/#comment-15474 I don't know if they can do that or not whether that makes sense from a practical standpoint. I think the charter would hold the key on whatever measures the conference could legally employ in certain situations. If the Big 12 starts monkeying with the rules then perhaps A&M could sue the conference for damages rather than having to worry about paying a big exit fee. Anyway if the Big 12 start talking about depriving A&M of money then you can as good as kiss them goodbye. If they leave then the SEC will take them.

I don't really see how Beebe is planning on keeping A&M by making a move like this. It seems more logical that this is a tactic to force A&M out quicker and possibly wreak havoc on the SEC by forcing them to take A&M before they are ready. That's a nice little conspiracy theory, but I don't know.

]]> By: AllTideUp http://mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/comment-page-1/#comment-15472 AllTideUp Wed, 17 Aug 2011 23:10:54 +0000 http://www.mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/#comment-15472 I think BYU would probably be open to joining the Big 12 since it's a BCS conference, but I think Notre Dame would pass. I don't think ND has passed on the Big 10 simply because of TV rights although that's probably part of it. Notre Dame loves their independence. They get all the benefits of being a BCS team without actually having to join a conference. I think they have hinted that they would consider joining a conference if the Big East became non-viable for all their other sports, but I think even then they would desire the Big 10. And the Big 10 has given ND a standing invitation.

]]> By: HoustonVol http://mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/comment-page-1/#comment-15471 HoustonVol Wed, 17 Aug 2011 23:08:32 +0000 http://www.mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/#comment-15471 The B12 does have the right to say we need to know what you are going to do by X date. the votes would be 9-1 against them. I doubt that they would kick them out, but they could say that if they do not have an answer by X date, you would lose your extra money that we promised you to stay last year.

]]> By: AllTideUp http://mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/comment-page-1/#comment-15470 AllTideUp Wed, 17 Aug 2011 23:06:11 +0000 http://www.mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/#comment-15470 Does the Big 12 even have the authority to post an arbitrary deadline? I suppose that would be found in the conference charter. Anyway, if the Big 12 can't take any action against A&M if A&M doesn't meet the deadline then I think this would just be grandstanding.

]]> By: HoustonVol http://mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/comment-page-1/#comment-15464 HoustonVol Wed, 17 Aug 2011 22:25:05 +0000 http://www.mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/#comment-15464 Sorry it linked when I posted the text. Did not realize that it would autopost the link when I did it. Just for the record, I did not write it.

I just found it interesting that the new chancellor of the university was stating that they hoped to announce something by 01SEP.

Thanks for keeping things clear. This is my favorite site for SEC news.

HV

]]> By: James Snowdwn http://mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/comment-page-1/#comment-15462 James Snowdwn Wed, 17 Aug 2011 22:16:44 +0000 http://www.mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/#comment-15462 mr.sec john. I'm just sticking with you from now on. you're right. everyone has their own story and that's really their own ideas. You've been great posting what will happen, before it happens. Thanks for posting the information that has truth behind them.

]]> By: James Snowdwn http://mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/comment-page-1/#comment-15455 James Snowdwn Wed, 17 Aug 2011 21:46:02 +0000 http://www.mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/#comment-15455 Reports from the big 12 has the conference going hard after Notre Dame and BYU. BOth programs are huge in their own way and with the way the big 12 is set up, they could have their own networks and broadcast some of their games on them. These were some of the big issues the big 10 wouldn't allow Notre Dame to do them. If they could get one or both, they might be happy getting rid of the Aggies. Because the money from the Espn and Fox deals would really stay in place. They wouldn't lose any games. I would say if one or both schools are interested in the big 12, they have a time limit as well. JUst a guess, but the big 12 obviously doesn't like the idea of the aggies holding the big 12 hostage.

]]> By: johnmrsec http://mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/comment-page-1/#comment-15447 johnmrsec Wed, 17 Aug 2011 21:08:09 +0000 http://www.mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/#comment-15447 HoustonVol…

I have seen that and that news has been out for a while. But "hoping to announce something" in 21 days (as was initially reported) is different than a hard, drop-dead date applied by a conference.

Bottom line, the SEC is searching for #14. If they find one in the next couple of weeks, great. If they don't, then all hell will break loose.

And I ask — again — please do not link to outside stories. People are doing this more and more and many are linking to things they themselves wrote. I'm not here to provide free advertising for other sites. If we believe something is new or newsworthy, we report on it or link to it.

Thanks,
John

]]> By: HoustonVol http://mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/comment-page-1/#comment-15444 HoustonVol Wed, 17 Aug 2011 21:00:32 +0000 http://www.mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/#comment-15444 John,
I guess you have not seen this from the Houston Chronicle today:
On Monday A&M regents named Sharp the lone finalist for chancellor. He's scheduled to start his new gig next month. A&M president R. Bowen Loftin is in negotiations with the SEC, and privately A&M hopes to announce a move by Sept. 1, and begin play in the new league by 2012.

Read more: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/colleg…

So as far as setting a deadline for them, TAMU already has an internal deadline.

]]> By: David D http://mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/comment-page-1/#comment-15437 David D Wed, 17 Aug 2011 20:46:19 +0000 http://www.mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/#comment-15437 This makes me wonder if the Big 12 is anxious to get started (or maybe already has i.e., Houston) finding replacements for A&M, particularly if A&M is gone to the SEC for the 2012 season. Or maybe this uncertainty is spurring other teams in the Big 12 to start thinking about finding a new home to land.

]]> By: Marc http://mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/comment-page-1/#comment-15436 Marc Wed, 17 Aug 2011 20:46:03 +0000 http://www.mrsec.com/2011/08/while-am-waits-for-sec-to-find-14-the-big-12-threatens-a-deadline/#comment-15436 Don't they already have a deadline in place? July 1st of each year?

It's up to A&M whether or not they announce after that deadline and pay any additional penalties.

I'm not sure what the point of adding an additional deadline is here.

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