Comments on: SEC Realignment And Schedule Options – Part One

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News | MrSEC.com — Mon, 07 Nov 2011 16:30:12 +0000

[...] that the league was interested only in an eight-game conference schedule for 2012 and beyond.But on October 20th and 21st, we pointed out that the SEC would likely have to move to a nine-game league schedule once [...]

By: chadillac

chadillac — Sat, 22 Oct 2011 06:42:14 +0000

What are the chances of a 16 team, 4 division SEC with a north/south/east/west and a plus 1 conf championship format? For instance, east winner plays west winner. North winner plays south winner. Both winners play in ATL. Sounds good to me. Back door the whole playoff thing, satisfy regional hosting, and guarantee the winner a bcs champ spot. 16 is the number eventually. Mizzi, Tamu, WV, Clemson.

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By: Bill C.

Bill C. — Fri, 21 Oct 2011 19:49:40 +0000

John Blair – Geographically it makes more sense to have USC in a division with Arkansas and Missouri? And you think anybody from UF or UGA is going to sign off on that game not being every year?
It makes the most sense to go to the 9 game schedule, its the only way. The schedules won't even get that much more difficult. Teams like UF, UGA, & USC who have a rival in the acc they can't drop will keep those games and schedule two cup cakes. Everyone else will play the 9 conference games and then schedule all cup cakes or maybe one team wake forest caliber if they feel like it. Take LSU for example who played WVU and Oregon this year. They would drop one or maybe both those type games, for 3 easy teams and then play the other 9 conference games.
The real trick is around the uneven distribution of conference home games. I find this less tricky for teams like, alabama, tennessee, auburn, ole miss, etc who don't have an out of conference rival they have to play. These teams on the years they have 4 home games could schedule up to 3 teams, easy or hard, at home if they want to. In contrast UF, UGA, and USC would really need to work with the conference to find a way to make sure their the seasons they only get 4 sec home games is the same season they play their acc rival at home. That way you get your 4 conference games at home, plus your big rival and then the two dopes you want to schedule on top of that.

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Homepage | MrSEC.com — Fri, 21 Oct 2011 06:18:41 +0000

[...] For a breakdown of scheduling formats (5-1-2, 6-1-1, and 6-1-2) please read Part One of this series. [...]

By: Rob

Rob — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 23:48:31 +0000

No matter what they do, I hope they split up the cross-divisional series, on the rotating schedules, so that teams don't play twice in consecutive years. I'd rather see teams play more often, then play in consecutive years.

I really hope they go with the 6-1-2 format, but I also understand that it may not be possible. We have a lot of great rivalries in this conference, but sometimes I think we get too caught up in them. Personally, I don't much care how long two teams have been playing, because that has little bearing on the competitiveness of the rivalry. I also think it could be unfair to the newer members, which will likely comprise 1/3 of the SEC next season, since they gave up so much of their history and tradition to join in the SEC (not sure about SC here, but that certainly goes for Arkansas, Texas A&M and Missouri.) South Carolina and Arkansas have spent 20 years trying to build some SEC tradition already and it wouldn't be right if all that was just thrown out the door for the sake of keeping, say, the Alabama and Mississippi State rivalry going for another 100 years. There ought to be a limit on how many rivalries each team can protect. I think it would make things easier if there was one.

By: John Blair

John Blair — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 20:06:30 +0000

Here is what I would like to see: SEC North: Missouri, KY, AR, Vandy, TN, GA, SC. SEC south: AL, AU, Ole Miss, Miss State, LSU, TXAM, and FL. This would allow TN/AL to continue, AU/AL would not be threatened, and GA?AU would be the cross sectional rivalry. In affect you would be moving AR and FL. It would also make more geographic sense.

By: AJW

AJW — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 18:26:16 +0000

just another scheduling possibility of the 6-1-2 you could play ever school every 3 years if you don't make the H/A back to back

2012 @georgia/kentucky
2013 @usc/florida
2014 @kentucky/mizzou
2015 @kentucky/georgia
2016 @florida/usc
2017 @mizzou/Kentucky

By: johnmrsec

johnmrsec — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 17:11:26 +0000

strickinms…

I think Mike Slive probably has someone doing the math on a 14-team plan for league presidents to peruse. He won't admit that — even after the fact — but I don't believe Slive would leave anything to chance. In fact, I don't think things with Missouri would have gotten this far if he didn't know he could get the votes to bring them in.

Thanks for reading,
John

By: strickinms

strickinms — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 15:37:17 +0000

JohnMrSEC,
What role will scheduling have in the SEC's vote to accept Mizzou? Ir seems that if too many feathers are ruffled, member school alums would put a lot of pressure on the schools that they support thereby possibly influencing member votes. In short, will the SEC commish have to satisfy all of the ADs (or Pres) with future scheduling before a vote takes place?

By: AllTideUp

AllTideUp — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 15:06:20 +0000

My only guess is this:

I know at Alabama that a regular season ticket for an SEC game is higher than a ticket for a game against say Tulane. If you couple that with the fact that a SEC conference game has a much better chance of being televised nationally and would command more money than an SEC team against a non-.AQ then I think you may be making up the revenue loss there.

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Same Road Game/Team Back to Back Years?? - TigerFan.com — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 14:53:19 +0000

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By: Willie!T

Willie!T — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 14:45:30 +0000

There is a LOT that administrators will have to consider as they work through the implications of expansion. At least we know we aren't destined to try and figure out who the legends are and who the leaders aren't!

By: GeoffDawg

GeoffDawg — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 13:49:41 +0000

I like your approach. However, since revenue is driving expansion and losing a home game every other year will significantly dent said revenue, it still seems like a rather tough sell to the respective school administrations. I wonder how the other conference officials were convinced of its value?

By: johnmrsec

johnmrsec — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 13:36:53 +0000

MIZ_SEC…

We've added a note at the bottom of the post. We did not mention the Big 12's current nine-game schedule because there's no telling how many teams will be in the Big 12 moving forward… and therefore there's no way to guess how many conference games they'll play. They went to a nine-game schedule this season as a 10-team league. If they become a 12-team league, it will be interesting to see if they follow the lead of the Pac-12, Big Ten and ACC.

Thanks as always for reading the site,
John

By: johnmrsec

johnmrsec — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 13:34:57 +0000

Kyle…

I've now posted a note at the end of our story. We've discussed the 6-2-1 format on this site before, but we intentionally left it out of this piece because it will be mentioned in detail in Part Three as a potential solution for one realignment plan.

Thanks for reading the site,
John

By: MIZ_SEC

MIZ_SEC — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 13:06:01 +0000

Good stuff, I've been waiting for your take on this.

FYI Big 12 also currently plays a 9 game schedule.

By: Adam Z

Adam Z — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 12:09:47 +0000

For selfish reasons only a nine game schedule is great because as a paying fan/booster–you are not stuck with paying for garbage non conference games that most FBS schools play. Again, just the selfish reasons only. There are compelling arguments for and against. But for the paying fan/customer–a 9 game schedule would be fantastic.

By: Pat

Pat — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 11:54:19 +0000

How about a balanced 10 game schedule, i.e. 6-2-2. This does the following:

1. Achieves the expansion goal of revenue increase – 10 game SEC schedule would yield the largest increase in TV contracts and/or greatest value for the new SEC network
2. Protects two cross divisional rivalries (Ala vs. UT and Auburn; Auburn vs Ala and LSU, etc.
3. Maintains the five year rotation versus other cross-divisional foes

It's a brutal schedule, but yet another justification for more than two schools in the BCS.

By: Mike

Mike — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 11:15:03 +0000

With a nine game conference schedule and the 5-4 home/away issue every other year, you will see ADs across the board be more reluctanct to play neutral field season openers with non-conference foes, such as the Chicken Classic (I believe that's #1 at the drive-thru) in Altanta each year. I know the Vols open next year with NC State there. It may not be attractive for schools to lose a non-conference home game going forward. Unless we go to a 13 game season, but that's just fantasy football there.

By: Anwar

Anwar — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 06:50:13 +0000

I really like the math.

Maybe they can do away w/ the permanent rival concept if your Bama/Aub to East pans out, and keep 8 game schedule.

Keep your three precious rivalries Ala/Ten, Aub/GA, & Aub/Ala intact as division games.

2 meetings in 7 years.

2012 – @Ala/Aub
2013 – @Aub/UGA
2014 – @UGA/Van
2015 – @Van/ USC
2016 – @USC/ UF
2017 – @UF/ Ten
2018 – @Ten/Ala

Plus with only 2 games against the other div the SECCG will have a better chance to be a fresh matchup for that season.

Onlyest hiccup is competive balance but since those the 3 rival games play each other anyway there will be losses regardless. I also see A&M and Ark becoming tougher with the merger which will strengthen the West.

By: Kyle

Kyle — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 05:43:53 +0000

the other option is 6-2-1. this means 10 year cycles but more rivalries are protected.