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		<title>By: Homepage &#124; MrSEC</title>
		<link>http://mrsec.com/2011/12/big-12-interim-commish-wants-a-plus-one-considered/comment-page-1/#comment-78641</link>
		<dc:creator>Homepage &#124; MrSEC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 03:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] December 5, 2011 &#8212; Later that same day, Big 12 interim commissioner Chuck Neinas became the first person of power outside of Slive and [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Alabama &#124; MrSEC.com</title>
		<link>http://mrsec.com/2011/12/big-12-interim-commish-wants-a-plus-one-considered/comment-page-1/#comment-54438</link>
		<dc:creator>Alabama &#124; MrSEC.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 17:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] had &#8212; to that point &#8212; not favored such a plan.Not long after our post on that topic, Big 12 interim commissioner Chuck Neinas confirmed our suspicions by saying that he was in favor of a plus-one format getting some discussion.Now Mike Slive states [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] had &#8212; to that point &#8212; not favored such a plan.Not long after our post on that topic, Big 12 interim commissioner Chuck Neinas confirmed our suspicions by saying that he was in favor of a plus-one format getting some discussion.Now Mike Slive states [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Thornton</title>
		<link>http://mrsec.com/2011/12/big-12-interim-commish-wants-a-plus-one-considered/comment-page-1/#comment-47978</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie Thornton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 07:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[THey should just have a final four for football. Play the semifinal games one week at like Cowboy stadium. Play the title game a week later at the same site. Fans of those teams could take a week off for vacation. THen the rest of the bowls could be in play. ANd lets make it the best four teams in the BCS standings. Not automatic conference champion bids. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THey should just have a final four for football. Play the semifinal games one week at like Cowboy stadium. Play the title game a week later at the same site. Fans of those teams could take a week off for vacation. THen the rest of the bowls could be in play. ANd lets make it the best four teams in the BCS standings. Not automatic conference champion bids. </p>
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		<title>By: mith242</title>
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		<dc:creator>mith242</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 20:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People keep complaining it&#039;s unfair that the SEC gets to have both teams in the Natl Championship game, but it goes both ways.  How do you think Arkansas and South Carolina feel, both being in the top ten in the BCS yet seeing other teams ranked as low as the 20s getting a shot at a BCS bowl.   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People keep complaining it&#039;s unfair that the SEC gets to have both teams in the Natl Championship game, but it goes both ways.  How do you think Arkansas and South Carolina feel, both being in the top ten in the BCS yet seeing other teams ranked as low as the 20s getting a shot at a BCS bowl.   </p>
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		<title>By: winston</title>
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		<dc:creator>winston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 19:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A plus one would be better than what we have but you would need to eliminate all preseason polls and start ranking team according to how they&#039;ve played and who (SOS) to that point.Teams that typically get preseason favor would need to improve their ooc games. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A plus one would be better than what we have but you would need to eliminate all preseason polls and start ranking team according to how they&#039;ve played and who (SOS) to that point.Teams that typically get preseason favor would need to improve their ooc games. </p>
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		<title>By: gatorfan6651</title>
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		<dc:creator>gatorfan6651</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 19:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We all know a plus 1 wouldn&#039;t be enough because you can have 100 teams in the playoff and number 101 would be crying about it. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all know a plus 1 wouldn&#8217;t be enough because you can have 100 teams in the playoff and number 101 would be crying about it. </p>
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		<title>By: gatorfan6651</title>
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		<dc:creator>gatorfan6651</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 18:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We all know a plus 1 wouldn&#039;t be enough because you can have 100 teams in the playoff and number 101 would be crying about ut. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all know a plus 1 wouldn&#8217;t be enough because you can have 100 teams in the playoff and number 101 would be crying about ut. </p>
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		<title>By: Willie!T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Willie!T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 18:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Look, the only way a playoff system happens is if the bowls governing boards get it done. The money &amp; politics that permeate Division 1 football (No, I don&#039;t call it &quot;FBS&quot;) is such that the powers that be - the aforementioned &quot;bowl committees&quot; - will determine what happens. 
 
So, in the interest of greed an incremental improvements to Division 1 football, here&#039;s what I think will occur, given time and a little forethought. 
 
This years&#039; rematch is giving some credence to the idea of a &quot;plus-1&quot; yet the primary reason that everyone outside the ACC &amp; SEC was against it back in 2008 (everyone meaning the other conferences &amp; the &quot;bowl committees&quot;. What you and I think doesn&#039;t matter) still exist. The fear that a plus-one will eventually lead to an expanded playoff &amp; taken to it&#039;s absurd end, you&#039;ll eventually have a playoff with 128 teams (the entirety of  division 1 as a few more Div2 teams &quot;move up&quot;).  Such a playoff would dilute the revenue stream currently dominated by the BCS bowls &amp; their &quot;AQ&quot; conferences. But we&#039;ll assume that a plus one is adopted on the premise that it will not lead to the feared dilution of revenues. 
 
If you get a plus-1 then, 
4 teams will stage a mini-playoff. 
Next, we need one or two conferences to bite the bullet and become superconferences. ACC &amp; SEC are now at 14 teams. Can they get to 16? probably in a couple years when the Big12 goes into another meltdown because Texas does something selfish and greedy (why TX? because that&#039;s what they do). That will result in yet another BCSNCG featuring two teams from the same conference. See at 16 teams, the SEC will probably pick up someone like Oklahoma &amp; OK State. We&#039;ll have another case where either the East or the West is absurdly strong and so forth.  That will give credence to expanding the BCS further. And thus we have an 8-team playoff yet all 8 teams remain IN BCS bowls so the money stays within the same pockets. 
 
Now, we get interesting. the PAC12 will see the need to expand. The Big10 will not want to be late to the party. They will either play catch-up and grow to 16 like the ACC &amp; SEC, or perhaps the PAC12 will sieze the opportunity to grow to 18. Now, why do I advocate 18 teams? Because I like the NFL playoff format.   
 
at 18 teams, a conference can split 3-ways. That means three division champs. Which means the conference can now stage it&#039;s own mini-playoff by picking up a wild-card. 
 
Now, what would this mean. Let&#039;s go with 4 conferences &amp; 18 teams each. That&#039;s 72 teams. All of which have a clear opportunity to reach the BCSNCG. Each conference mini-playoff would feature 4 teams (thus we see a 16-team playoff). the four conference champs would then be able to meet in two bowls with a plus-one to determine the champion. 
 
Now, the only problem with this scenario is that there are 120, or so, Division 1 teams. The remaining 48 teams would effectively be locked out of the championship picture. Well, that&#039;s where the 8-team playoff I mentioned earlier comes into play.  Instead of the four conference champs playing each other in a 4+1 format, let them play 4 at-large teams selected from the remaining 48. Oh sure, you&#039;d get a matchup of an LSU or Oregon with someone like Rice or Samford, but hey, the point is to give the guys at the bottom of the pecking order a chance, right? Any given Saturday right? sometimes an Appalachian State beats a Michigan. 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, the only way a playoff system happens is if the bowls governing boards get it done. The money &amp; politics that permeate Division 1 football (No, I don&#039;t call it &quot;FBS&quot;) is such that the powers that be &#8211; the aforementioned &quot;bowl committees&quot; &#8211; will determine what happens. </p>
<p>So, in the interest of greed an incremental improvements to Division 1 football, here&#039;s what I think will occur, given time and a little forethought. </p>
<p>This years&#039; rematch is giving some credence to the idea of a &quot;plus-1&quot; yet the primary reason that everyone outside the ACC &amp; SEC was against it back in 2008 (everyone meaning the other conferences &amp; the &quot;bowl committees&quot;. What you and I think doesn&#039;t matter) still exist. The fear that a plus-one will eventually lead to an expanded playoff &amp; taken to it&#039;s absurd end, you&#039;ll eventually have a playoff with 128 teams (the entirety of  division 1 as a few more Div2 teams &quot;move up&quot;).  Such a playoff would dilute the revenue stream currently dominated by the BCS bowls &amp; their &quot;AQ&quot; conferences. But we&#039;ll assume that a plus one is adopted on the premise that it will not lead to the feared dilution of revenues. </p>
<p>If you get a plus-1 then,<br />
4 teams will stage a mini-playoff.<br />
Next, we need one or two conferences to bite the bullet and become superconferences. ACC &amp; SEC are now at 14 teams. Can they get to 16? probably in a couple years when the Big12 goes into another meltdown because Texas does something selfish and greedy (why TX? because that&#039;s what they do). That will result in yet another BCSNCG featuring two teams from the same conference. See at 16 teams, the SEC will probably pick up someone like Oklahoma &amp; OK State. We&#039;ll have another case where either the East or the West is absurdly strong and so forth.  That will give credence to expanding the BCS further. And thus we have an 8-team playoff yet all 8 teams remain IN BCS bowls so the money stays within the same pockets. </p>
<p>Now, we get interesting. the PAC12 will see the need to expand. The Big10 will not want to be late to the party. They will either play catch-up and grow to 16 like the ACC &amp; SEC, or perhaps the PAC12 will sieze the opportunity to grow to 18. Now, why do I advocate 18 teams? Because I like the NFL playoff format.   </p>
<p>at 18 teams, a conference can split 3-ways. That means three division champs. Which means the conference can now stage it&#039;s own mini-playoff by picking up a wild-card. </p>
<p>Now, what would this mean. Let&#039;s go with 4 conferences &amp; 18 teams each. That&#039;s 72 teams. All of which have a clear opportunity to reach the BCSNCG. Each conference mini-playoff would feature 4 teams (thus we see a 16-team playoff). the four conference champs would then be able to meet in two bowls with a plus-one to determine the champion. </p>
<p>Now, the only problem with this scenario is that there are 120, or so, Division 1 teams. The remaining 48 teams would effectively be locked out of the championship picture. Well, that&#039;s where the 8-team playoff I mentioned earlier comes into play.  Instead of the four conference champs playing each other in a 4+1 format, let them play 4 at-large teams selected from the remaining 48. Oh sure, you&#039;d get a matchup of an LSU or Oregon with someone like Rice or Samford, but hey, the point is to give the guys at the bottom of the pecking order a chance, right? Any given Saturday right? sometimes an Appalachian State beats a Michigan. </p>
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		<title>By: johnmrsec</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnmrsec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 18:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Denny... 
 
You might want to turn on the TV or radio.  You&#039;ll find that a lot of people don&#039;t agree and don&#039;t want a rematch in the national title game.  I have no problem with it, but I&#039;d like it better if it had come about as part of a four-team playoff. 
 
John ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Denny&#8230; </p>
<p>You might want to turn on the TV or radio.  You&#039;ll find that a lot of people don&#039;t agree and don&#039;t want a rematch in the national title game.  I have no problem with it, but I&#039;d like it better if it had come about as part of a four-team playoff. </p>
<p>John </p>
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		<title>By: Denny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 17:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The irony is that there will be more rematches in a +1 system, and many more rematches in a full blown playoffs.  As it stands now the two best teams are to play for the championship and that, everyone agrees, is happening. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The irony is that there will be more rematches in a +1 system, and many more rematches in a full blown playoffs.  As it stands now the two best teams are to play for the championship and that, everyone agrees, is happening. </p>
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		<title>By: johnmrsec</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnmrsec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 16:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[vic... 
 
Wrote that this morning in our first post of the day -- eight SEC titles by five schools in 14 years of BCS system.   
 
John ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vic&#8230; </p>
<p>Wrote that this morning in our first post of the day &#8212; eight SEC titles by five schools in 14 years of BCS system.   </p>
<p>John </p>
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		<title>By: johnmrsec</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnmrsec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 16:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill... 
 
A plus-one is a Final Four.  There will never be a playoff in college football and -- quite frankly -- I&#039;ve never seen a team ranked outside the top four that I though was deserving of being called national champs.  I think it&#039;s a plue-one or nothing, and I&#039;d take a plus-one. 
 
Thanks for reading, 
John ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill&#8230; </p>
<p>A plus-one is a Final Four.  There will never be a playoff in college football and &#8212; quite frankly &#8212; I&#039;ve never seen a team ranked outside the top four that I though was deserving of being called national champs.  I think it&#039;s a plue-one or nothing, and I&#039;d take a plus-one. </p>
<p>Thanks for reading,<br />
John </p>
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		<title>By: vic</title>
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		<dc:creator>vic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 16:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That would only give an SEC team the chance to give another conference team another loss. What is this now six in a row? What&#039;s the total since UT won the first BCS championship in &#039;98? What&#039;s the total Southern Schools including Florida St. since the BCS? Football is King in the South. It&#039;s more evident now than at any time. Even if we have a playoff system the southern teams would dominate.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would only give an SEC team the chance to give another conference team another loss. What is this now six in a row? What&#039;s the total since UT won the first BCS championship in &#039;98? What&#039;s the total Southern Schools including Florida St. since the BCS? Football is King in the South. It&#039;s more evident now than at any time. Even if we have a playoff system the southern teams would dominate.  </p>
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		<title>By: johnmrsec</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnmrsec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 16:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[GeoffDawg... 
 
This now makes three conference commissioners who&#039;s gotten behind the idea of a plus-one at one time or another.  People tend to act when they&#039;re mad about something, and a lot of folks won&#039;t like that it&#039;s SEC champ vs. SEC non-champ in the BCS title game.   
 
We&#039;re not saying there&#039;ll be a plus-one in place next year.  We just think you&#039;ll have more folks open to discussing it.  And that in itself is a step in the right direction. 
 
As always, thanks for reading the site, 
John ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GeoffDawg&#8230; </p>
<p>This now makes three conference commissioners who&#039;s gotten behind the idea of a plus-one at one time or another.  People tend to act when they&#039;re mad about something, and a lot of folks won&#039;t like that it&#039;s SEC champ vs. SEC non-champ in the BCS title game.   </p>
<p>We&#039;re not saying there&#039;ll be a plus-one in place next year.  We just think you&#039;ll have more folks open to discussing it.  And that in itself is a step in the right direction. </p>
<p>As always, thanks for reading the site,<br />
John </p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 16:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A plus 1 is like putting a band-aid on gunshot wound. The BCS, conference commissioners and the school presidents need to push for a form of a playoff. Set a standard on conference size and make the conference championships worth something. Im cool with a poll determining who gets a wildcard slot in the playoff but not a popularity contest for who&#039;s in the &quot;national championship&quot;. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A plus 1 is like putting a band-aid on gunshot wound. The BCS, conference commissioners and the school presidents need to push for a form of a playoff. Set a standard on conference size and make the conference championships worth something. Im cool with a poll determining who gets a wildcard slot in the playoff but not a popularity contest for who&#039;s in the &quot;national championship&quot;. </p>
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		<title>By: GeoffDawg</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeoffDawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 16:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I question how much support there really is for a plus one setup.  Neinas invokes it because OK St. got left out so it&#8217;s expected of him by the member schools.  Like when Utah gets left out of the BCS and their Senator calls for a Congressional investigation.  If Bama had ended up Sugar Bowling, you can bet that he&#8217;d be hunky-dory with the current formula. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I question how much support there really is for a plus one setup.  Neinas invokes it because OK St. got left out so it&rsquo;s expected of him by the member schools.  Like when Utah gets left out of the BCS and their Senator calls for a Congressional investigation.  If Bama had ended up Sugar Bowling, you can bet that he&rsquo;d be hunky-dory with the current formula. </p>
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