Comments on: It’s Becoming More Obvious That This Year’s BCS Mess Will Bring Change

By: au4life

au4life — Sun, 18 Dec 2011 22:18:37 +0000

To win the state football championship in most states you have to play 15 or 16 games with playoffs. The same with professional and D 3 football. Why should D 1 be so different?

By: GeauxState

GeauxState — Fri, 09 Dec 2011 17:09:06 +0000

ams go play somewhere….might sound dumb i think that would be a cool scenrio.

By: GeauxState

GeauxState — Fri, 09 Dec 2011 17:07:05 +0000

It think it would be cool to see the top 10 schools in a playoff scenrio for the national championship and bowl eligible te

By: AllTideUp

AllTideUp — Fri, 09 Dec 2011 16:21:01 +0000

It was the same weekend, but we don't know what type of impact that may have had. I doubt any of the players knew those coaches although Gundy and some of his staff may have known them and that may have been a distraction. Nonetheless, tragic things like that are not uncommon. Players sometimes loose family members in the middle of the season. Tuscaloosa was ripped apart by a tornado earlier this year and that impacts people as well. It doesn't make it any less tragic, but it's just part of life.

By: StevenBrew

StevenBrew — Fri, 09 Dec 2011 14:35:43 +0000

Beauty pageants are for girls and that is what D-1 football is(the beauty pagent part not the girls part). It doesnt matter how good you look so far, you need to get on the field and survive and advance. No playoffs is BORING.

By: StevenBrew

StevenBrew — Fri, 09 Dec 2011 14:19:54 +0000

Why did you delete that administrator?

By: deltaboy

deltaboy — Fri, 09 Dec 2011 13:56:15 +0000

A four team playoff [absurdly called a "Plus 1"] is certainly better than what we have now [a two team "playoff"]. My question is if we have a four team playoff, will that not eliminate the "automatic qualifier" staus of certain conferences & thereby eliminate the main reason for many of these absurd conference realignments?

By: Willie McGee

Willie McGee — Fri, 09 Dec 2011 13:22:08 +0000

Alabama and LSU are still the two best teams hands down.

By: StevenBrew

StevenBrew — Fri, 09 Dec 2011 13:03:08 +0000

Yes, and they are the only team getting a 2nd shot. Sorry I will not be tuning in but will root for Alabama. Wasnt the weekend Ok State lost in Ames the same time as the tragic plane crash which is an obvious distraction, Also the field goal went over the top of the goalpost(which gives the W to OSU), what is the rule on that? Good or no good.

By: Dan

Dan — Fri, 09 Dec 2011 12:17:11 +0000

An 8 team playoff in 3 weekends – what's wrong with that? We already wait that long to get to the BCS championship game.

By: Alan Powell

Alan Powell — Fri, 09 Dec 2011 05:35:24 +0000

Plus 1 is still a scam. A real playoff is needed. Make the big change.

By: Rob

Rob — Fri, 09 Dec 2011 00:34:41 +0000

I like the plus-one system, but they also need to put the AP back in. As much criticism as we've been hearing about the Coaches poll lately, it's still a lot better then the Harris and neither is as good as the AP.

By: Rob

Rob — Fri, 09 Dec 2011 00:28:27 +0000

The games are played on the field for good reason. I agree that you're probably right, but if I were perfect at picking college football games, I'd be rich today.

By: Andy

Andy — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 21:50:24 +0000

4 teams is a geat start. I would call it a playoff. Not long ago MLB had two leagues with two divisions each with a similar format. Not long ago the NFL had a much smaller playoff pool with only one wildcard in each league and only division winners in the playoff. Start with four and let's see what happens, but a four team playoff it is.

By: Andy

Andy — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 21:47:09 +0000

No other major sport in the USA EVER allowed an at-large or "wild card" team to play in the title game without a playoff system. Your logic holds no sense when comparing best practice seen in the NFL, MLB, NBA, NCAA Baseball, etc. Unless of course, you can show me how you pick the final four in the NCAA basketball bracket and every winner of a BCS game every year though your crystal ball?

By: AllTideUp

AllTideUp — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 20:39:00 +0000

Well, it would be a different situation. Bama and LSU will have played 2 games and split them. I don't think it would be unreasonable to give LSU the AP title and I wouldn't be bothered by it at all if Bama won.

If Bama drubs LSU though then I don't think that would happen.

By: AllTideUp

AllTideUp — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 20:34:21 +0000

Technically Bama is getting a 2nd chance as well. I don't have a problem at all with a Plus One system.

By: johnmrsec

johnmrsec — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 20:09:44 +0000

CanoeU02…

They can tweak the formula whenever they like, but if a plus-one is created there will likely be a change to the number of games played. That would require new television deals. Those are up in January of 2014.

As for the playoff, I think 95% of the people in college sports are against a playoff. Coaches can go to bowls and help their job status. Kids can get a trip they enjoy after a hard season. A 16-team playoff — or even an 8-team playoff — would cut into that.

Here's a detailed look at why a large playoff just won't work in the current set-up. Wrote this 3 years ago:
http://www.mrsec.com/2008/12/creating-the-perfect…

Now, if about 70-80 teams break off to start their own division inside the current FBS, that would be such a game-changer than everything would be on the table. But until that happens — if that happens — I don't see anyway the sport goes to anything more than a 4-team playoff… and even then they won't call it a "playoff."

Thanks for reading,
John

By: Willie McGee

Willie McGee — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 19:45:00 +0000

That's true. But the fact remains that a plus 1 does nothing at all except give the 3rd and 4th place teams a second chance.

By: CanoeU02

CanoeU02 — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 19:43:00 +0000

John,
If the BCS can "tweek" its system whenever it wants, why do they have to wait until 2015 to start a plus-1? Or have the "tweeks" all come at the end of contracts?

Also, why do you think it takes a new division in college football before there's a larger playoff format? Wouldn't the NCAA want to finally get involved before the landscape moved that far?

By: johnmrsec

johnmrsec — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 19:06:17 +0000

Willie McGee…

If Alabama had been passed over by Oklahoma State, I doubt you'd be so quick to say that everyone got a shot.

John

By: Willie McGee

Willie McGee — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 18:30:55 +0000

The top four teams (along with every other team) got a shot this year. What a plus one would do is give the 3rd and 4th place teams a SECOND shot.

By: johnmrsec

johnmrsec — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 18:22:13 +0000

Denny…

"Likely" seems to be the key word. It might give us a rematch, but you wouldn't hear anyone complaining because all of the top four teams would get a shot. The Pac-12 wouldn't whine. The Big 12 wouldn't cry. They'd both be in. And that's the point.

Thanks for reading,
John

By: Willie McGee

Willie McGee — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 17:14:28 +0000

No way there's a split title. The AP would have to vote the loser (LSU) of the BCS championship game as the winner of the national champion. (That was NOT the case back in 2003) The AP doesn't have a national championship game. In every sport known to man the title game in more important than a regular season game, and especially since LSU won the regular season game 9-6 in OT, it would be nonsensical to give them the AP title. They didn't win the more important title game and they will not have beaten Bama as badly as Bama will have beaten them, even if it's only by 1 point in regulation. Yes, the AP voters may want to stick it to Bama or something like that, but they have agreed to vote for the best team in college football and if they don't even follow their own rules, they would be even more irrelevant than they already are.

By: Love the Chaos

Love the Chaos — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 17:07:14 +0000

I'm a fan of the plus-one system, but no way do I pull for bama (haters gonna hate). The strength of the SEC now having two teams has made the plus-one inevitable. Regardless of the outcome of the game, the teams/conferences at home watching are left out. They have to increase their odds in getting into the BCS.

By: Denny

Denny — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 17:05:17 +0000

A plus 1 would likely give us exactly what we have now. LSU would likely beat Stanford, Bama would likely beat OSU, and then LSU and Bama would play for the championship. There would still be a rematch. Bama still would not have won a conference title.