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]]> By: bamahead http://mrsec.com/2011/12/mizzous-pinkel-talks-8-game-sec-schedule-and-am-but-a-9-game-schedule-will-come/comment-page-1/#comment-47869 bamahead Tue, 06 Dec 2011 03:07:53 +0000 http://www.mrsec.com/2011/12/mizzous-pinkel-talks-8-game-sec-schedule-and-am-but-a-9-game-schedule-will-come/#comment-47869 I remember the 80's where Bama would play Penn St, Notre Dame, Georgia Tech, often all on the same non-conference schedule. And the lone 'directional state' game in those days was usually a (now) Big East or C-USA school like Rutgers or Tulane. Most Directional State U's didn't have a D1 football program in those days, and IMHO there are too many of them now.

-bh

]]> By: bamahead http://mrsec.com/2011/12/mizzous-pinkel-talks-8-game-sec-schedule-and-am-but-a-9-game-schedule-will-come/comment-page-1/#comment-47868 bamahead Tue, 06 Dec 2011 03:07:44 +0000 http://www.mrsec.com/2011/12/mizzous-pinkel-talks-8-game-sec-schedule-and-am-but-a-9-game-schedule-will-come/#comment-47868 All – I think a 9 game schedule for 2013 is a foregone conclusion at this point. The article on this site from earlier this week said that the likely schedules coming out in '2 weeks' are a 1-year solution, according to SEC sources. This smells to me like they're just going with the familiar for a single year to get Mizzou and A&M 'acquainted' with their division, and then they will up the ante next year and go back to the 1 permanent-2 rotating cross division games in a 9 game schedule.

I welcome it and for one will not miss the typical 4 games per-year with Directional State University. What I will miss is the chance to put more Big 10, Pac 12, BigIX teams on SEC schedules because you know the coaches will WANT to schedule the easy wins, at the expense of the big intra-conference games.
-bh

]]> By: sfprman http://mrsec.com/2011/12/mizzous-pinkel-talks-8-game-sec-schedule-and-am-but-a-9-game-schedule-will-come/comment-page-1/#comment-47793 sfprman Mon, 05 Dec 2011 23:58:37 +0000 http://www.mrsec.com/2011/12/mizzous-pinkel-talks-8-game-sec-schedule-and-am-but-a-9-game-schedule-will-come/#comment-47793 a 9-game conference schedule is great ONLY if everyone else is doing it. The Big XII doing it this year just placed 5 additional loses on the conference teams vs. others conferences like the SEC who only played 8 conference games. Even if all the major conferences play a nine-game conference schedule, it becomes that more frustrating to see a Boise State or whomever play perhaps one quality opponent a year and clamor for a BCS bowl while much better 10-2 teams from major conferences are left out in the cold.

]]> By: Andy http://mrsec.com/2011/12/mizzous-pinkel-talks-8-game-sec-schedule-and-am-but-a-9-game-schedule-will-come/comment-page-1/#comment-47731 Andy Mon, 05 Dec 2011 22:10:33 +0000 http://www.mrsec.com/2011/12/mizzous-pinkel-talks-8-game-sec-schedule-and-am-but-a-9-game-schedule-will-come/#comment-47731 I like an 8 game conference schedule if it means you get one extra premium non-conference game per year. I would love to see Mizzou play Nebraska every year in the non-conference. If the SEC goes to 9 games, I'm not sure that's even possible. But at 8 games it is. With 9 conference games to we still get LSU/Oregon? Alabama/Penn State? Georgia/Boise State? Missouri/Arizona State? I'm not sure that we do.

]]> By: Kelly http://mrsec.com/2011/12/mizzous-pinkel-talks-8-game-sec-schedule-and-am-but-a-9-game-schedule-will-come/comment-page-1/#comment-47655 Kelly Mon, 05 Dec 2011 20:39:34 +0000 http://www.mrsec.com/2011/12/mizzous-pinkel-talks-8-game-sec-schedule-and-am-but-a-9-game-schedule-will-come/#comment-47655 Well they will be in West soon

]]> By: johnmrsec http://mrsec.com/2011/12/mizzous-pinkel-talks-8-game-sec-schedule-and-am-but-a-9-game-schedule-will-come/comment-page-1/#comment-47563 johnmrsec Mon, 05 Dec 2011 18:32:36 +0000 http://www.mrsec.com/2011/12/mizzous-pinkel-talks-8-game-sec-schedule-and-am-but-a-9-game-schedule-will-come/#comment-47563 Jeff Elsworth…

I didn't hear it, but I'd guess the Big 12 and MU are far enough down the road in terms of negotiation for the coach's words not to be that big of a deal. The Big 12 wants huge cash. Mizzou is trying to talk them down. Eventually they'll meet in the middle and the move will be complete.

I would be shocked if something like a coach's remark truly upset the apple cart at this point.

Thanks or reading,
John

]]> By: johnmrsec http://mrsec.com/2011/12/mizzous-pinkel-talks-8-game-sec-schedule-and-am-but-a-9-game-schedule-will-come/comment-page-1/#comment-47560 johnmrsec Mon, 05 Dec 2011 18:31:03 +0000 http://www.mrsec.com/2011/12/mizzous-pinkel-talks-8-game-sec-schedule-and-am-but-a-9-game-schedule-will-come/#comment-47560 lodger…

No offense, but that's not a solution at all. To hold a league championship game — without an NCAA waiver — you have to have round-robin play within the divisions. Also, what if Alabama and LSU had been the West Division foes who did not meet this season? Good luck picking a tie-breaker.

The reasons against a nine-game conference schedule are weak at best and they're being ignored by very other major league. The SEC will wisely follow suit soon enough.

Thanks for reading,
John

]]> By: Jeff Elsworth http://mrsec.com/2011/12/mizzous-pinkel-talks-8-game-sec-schedule-and-am-but-a-9-game-schedule-will-come/comment-page-1/#comment-47548 Jeff Elsworth Mon, 05 Dec 2011 18:20:45 +0000 http://www.mrsec.com/2011/12/mizzous-pinkel-talks-8-game-sec-schedule-and-am-but-a-9-game-schedule-will-come/#comment-47548 John,
did you listen to the interview on Powermizzou? Pinkel answering the first question said the SEC was pursuing Missouri. Please tell me the Big12 cannot use that against either MU or the SEC !!

]]> By: lodger http://mrsec.com/2011/12/mizzous-pinkel-talks-8-game-sec-schedule-and-am-but-a-9-game-schedule-will-come/comment-page-1/#comment-47546 lodger Mon, 05 Dec 2011 18:19:58 +0000 http://www.mrsec.com/2011/12/mizzous-pinkel-talks-8-game-sec-schedule-and-am-but-a-9-game-schedule-will-come/#comment-47546 The SEC does not need a 9 game schedule to maintain rivalries. The problem with an 8 game schedule (normal) is that other than the permanent game with 1 cross-division rival, you only play the other cross-division teams once every 6 years. What program wants ALA or FLA to visit their stadium only once every 12 years?
The answer is simple. Modify the 8-game schedule so each team skips one division member each year. This allows the current practice of playing 3 cross-division teams to continue. The best intra-division rivalries (ALA-AUB, MS-MS ST, LSU-ARK, GA-FL, TN-VAN, KY-SC) would be played every year. The other intra-division teams would only be skipped once every 5 years. This seems to me better than teams becoming virtual strangers with 6 of the cross-division teams. People will argue about strength of schedule disparities, well, isn't it statistically true that cross-division games are just as likely to cause disparity as division games. There is simply no way to have perfect schedule balance in a 14-team conference unless you play 13 conference games.

]]> By: Medloh http://mrsec.com/2011/12/mizzous-pinkel-talks-8-game-sec-schedule-and-am-but-a-9-game-schedule-will-come/comment-page-1/#comment-47520 Medloh Mon, 05 Dec 2011 17:36:46 +0000 http://www.mrsec.com/2011/12/mizzous-pinkel-talks-8-game-sec-schedule-and-am-but-a-9-game-schedule-will-come/#comment-47520 For the record, Pinkel voted Alabama as #2, saying they showed they were the second best team this the season.

He also said that he was assured Mizzou football facilities would be upgraded. He said this was Mizzou's chance, and he wouldn't want to be apart of it if they didn't receive the kind of investments necessary to win in the SEC. They'll be increasing their recruiting budgets and upgrading facilities starting with new field turf next year and a few thousand extra seats soon.

Mizzou was of course passed up by all the B12 bowls. But it turned out alright for us. We go to Shreveport in the Independence bowl to play N Carolina. At least we get some exposure in SEC territory, hopefully will spark some interest in future recruits. B12 shares all bowl revenue equally so crappy payout doesn't really affect Mizzou much.

]]> By: johnmrsec http://mrsec.com/2011/12/mizzous-pinkel-talks-8-game-sec-schedule-and-am-but-a-9-game-schedule-will-come/comment-page-1/#comment-47473 johnmrsec Mon, 05 Dec 2011 16:33:33 +0000 http://www.mrsec.com/2011/12/mizzous-pinkel-talks-8-game-sec-schedule-and-am-but-a-9-game-schedule-will-come/#comment-47473 GeoffDawg…

But the issues you're mentioning are being ignored by other leagues going to nine-games. FSU, Clemson and Georgia Tech aren't complaining about the fact that most ACC officials are talking about a nine-game schedule with Va. Tech's AD even tossing out the idea of a 10-game league slate.

The excuses that will be used by the schools are all small when compared to a) overall revenue increases from expansion and b) the overall health of the conference. And I do not believe a conference where half the teams don't often see each other is healthy.

We'll see, but I bet all these issues get ironed out.

John

]]> By: GeoffDawg http://mrsec.com/2011/12/mizzous-pinkel-talks-8-game-sec-schedule-and-am-but-a-9-game-schedule-will-come/comment-page-1/#comment-47445 GeoffDawg Mon, 05 Dec 2011 15:42:13 +0000 http://www.mrsec.com/2011/12/mizzous-pinkel-talks-8-game-sec-schedule-and-am-but-a-9-game-schedule-will-come/#comment-47445 I can see there being a split among the programs between those that play a permanent, quality OOC opponent like Georgia, Florida, South Carolina and those that don’t like Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss, etc. I know those programs in recent years often play good OOC teams like Bama/Penn St., Auburn/Clemson and so forth but the difference is that they have the option to scale back their scheduling as they see fit to their own benefit. There’s also the issue of losing the revenue from a guaranteed home game every season. Maybe a more lucrative tv contract can make up that difference but there’s obviously a lot of details to be worked out. It does seem inevitable though that a nine game league schedule is coming.

]]> By: deltaboy http://mrsec.com/2011/12/mizzous-pinkel-talks-8-game-sec-schedule-and-am-but-a-9-game-schedule-will-come/comment-page-1/#comment-47422 deltaboy Mon, 05 Dec 2011 15:14:15 +0000 http://www.mrsec.com/2011/12/mizzous-pinkel-talks-8-game-sec-schedule-and-am-but-a-9-game-schedule-will-come/#comment-47422 "So says a coach. And there's not a coach in the SEC who'll likely want to see a nine-game football slate."

Quite right! And that's exactly why coaches should have zero input into decisions like this. They cannot be trusted on scheduling because they almost always give self-serving advice. If scheduling were left up to the coaches, we would probably see four conference games & eight cupcakes on each SEC schedule.

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