Comments on: The SEC Responds To Stallings’ Schedule Complaint

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By: Dynamite fan

Dynamite fan — Sun, 22 Jan 2012 00:00:07 +0000

Boy Bama sure looked tired today I wonder why?? FYI UK has 8 weekend game in conference and half of those are vs teams on one days rest. UK benefits from the TV package too. CBS and ESPN wouldn’t be hurt if they had to air other teams and not all 16 of Kentucky’s conference games. We don’t see Alabama every week during Football season why give UK the conference title on a platter.

By: Vols fan

Vols fan — Sat, 21 Jan 2012 02:32:32 +0000

@Vols fan

I read both of your posts. You don’t like the unfair scheduling either and neither does Kentucky ? Really? And they have complained about it on three levels but you aren’t sure how? Really? and you will forgive me for not knowing this and I must have a hole in my head to not understand this? Oh, OK. Got it now thanks for setting me straight, dayworks.

By: dayworks

dayworks — Sat, 21 Jan 2012 01:47:20 +0000

@Vols fan Hey Vols fan, you need to read the rest of my post. Unfortunately, it is way up there somewhere. (I very much dislike this commenting system. WordPress still trying to be a true content management system and people buying into it. LOL!)

I am being objective about this matter. I don’t like the manner SEC scheduling is being handled one bit. Even Kentucky has, on three levels, (it’s true, but I apologize for not having link references for you) expressed disdain for it, for the exact same reasons you and others are crying out about.

I’ll forgive you for not knowing about that this time, but you need to find some peg that will fit with some hole in your head whereby you may come to understand, it’s not a matter of whether Kentucky would complain about such scheduling if they were in the backseat. They already have all the while being in the driver’s seat.

By: Vols fan

Vols fan — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 17:18:27 +0000

UK “stays out of it” because the current system gives them an advantage (if you disagree, you are not being objective) but if it were the opposite scenario, you better believe you would be hearing LOTS more about this issue. Just stating the obvious.

By: Vols fan

Vols fan — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 13:45:28 +0000

Thanks for admitting that the current setup DOES give Ky a competitive advantage, but I think that to say that it is “OK because TV networks give the conference lots of money” is pretty weak. Isn’t the tail wagging the dog? I am pretty sure that if you are honest, you will admit that you would not be content to say “it is what it is” if the opposite were true and TV dictated a schedule that put KY at a competitive disadvantage. In fact, I am fairly certain that the Wildcat howls would echo from Lexington to Birmingham. What if TV said it would prefer to have KY have 1 more away SEC game and 1 less SEC home game each year? Would you say that “that’s just the way it is” and since CBS/ESPN pay so much money, that we should either accept it or give the money back? I believe if you look at it and say what is fair for ALL of our teams, the answer is obvious and should not be ignored for financial reasons.

By: Guest

Guest — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 06:08:37 +0000

I think stallings point that you are missing is that UK plays 4 times on a Saturday against a team who played Thursday night. I’m most cases UK gets 2 days of additional rest to their opponent.

By: Guest

Guest — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 02:49:47 +0000

Ummmm…simple question…if the league is so concerned with fairness in scheduling, why is Kentucky’s lone Thursday game followed by a Sunday game???

By: Mattox

Mattox — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 01:22:13 +0000

@Vols fan No. I am suggesting that when you take hundreds of millions of dollars from a TV network, then you cede some level of scheduling control to said network. It is a competitive advantage for UK to not have that Thursday/Saturday combo, but that’s part of it when you’re cashing the kind of checks from CBS/ESPN that the SEC does. Your original post was; “Every team has the SAME number of Thurs.-Sat. turnaround games regardless of whether it pleases the TV networks or not.” Well that’s not how it works at this level. I’m sure if as a league we wanted to give them back their truck loads of cash and rescind the TV contract, that everyone could then have the same schedule. However, I have a hunch you would have trouble getting support from any SEC Athletic Department for that approach.

By: Vols fan

Vols fan — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 01:14:24 +0000

@Mattox@Vols fan May not be a fair comparison because while having your football game televised carries some advantages with recruiting, having to play a tough basketball game on Sat. noon after returning from playing another tough basketball road game (getting back at 3am on Fri. and having noon tipoff on Sat.) might be a bigger disadvantage than not having your football game televised. So, nice try, but not sure the explanation is comparable. Surely, you aren’t suggesting that since Kentucky is such an important basketball power, it shouldn’t have to play Thurs-Sat. turnaround games while the rest of the teams in the league should?

By: Dynamite fan

Dynamite fan — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 00:36:22 +0000

@Mattox

FYI Vandy Plays UK twice and UF twice in the month of Feb. How is making the NCAA tourney embarassing the league?? He has won games in the dance BTW. Not making the tourney Players not attending classes or getting degrees or Being placed on Probation is more embarassing than losing in the 1st round.

By: Dynamite fan

Dynamite fan — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 00:30:19 +0000

FYI Vandy Plays UK twice and UF twice in the month of Feb. How is making the NCAA tourney embarassing the league?? He has won games in the dance BTW. Not making the tourney or Being placed on Probation is more embarassing than losing in the 1st round.

By: Mattox

Mattox — Thu, 19 Jan 2012 23:32:40 +0000

@Vols fan The TV networks fall into the set of “everyone”. In football, not every team gets the same number of CBS games. CBS wants to show Bama, LSU, Florida, Auburn, Georgia or Tennessee when they’re rolling because they’re national brands. In college basketball, fair or not, the SEC only has one team that’s truly a national brand; Kentucky. It is a little different issue with basketball, because games are played on several different days as opposed to just Saturday and the occasional Thursday, but Kentucky getting the most Tuesday night basketball games is the equivalent of Bama & LSU getting more CBS and primetime ESPN games. There’s no completely “fair” way to do it if you’re going to take hundreds of millions of dollars from TV networks. You are going to have to play by their rules to some extent. They made an investment in your product and they want to maximize that investment. The greatest return on that investment when it comes to basketball is Kentucky.

By: Vols fan

Vols fan — Thu, 19 Jan 2012 22:32:49 +0000

Yes, there IS a way to please everyone and it is very simple. Every team has the SAME number of Thurs.-Sat. turnaround games regardless of whether it pleases the TV networks or not. The SEC addressed Alabama’s complaints (whether you agreed with them or not) and they should do so with this issue as well. I will agree that my summary of your views was laughable but it wasn’t incorrect.

By: John at MrSEC

John at MrSEC — Thu, 19 Jan 2012 21:53:35 +0000

Vols fan…

Uh, no. I thought Bama fans whined too much, too. And your summary of my views was laughably simplistic and incorrect.

John

By: Mattox

Mattox — Thu, 19 Jan 2012 19:28:41 +0000

Obviously UK has Vandy (x2) as opposed to playing themselves, but if the situation were reversed what I posted above would be the Vandy equivalent to UK’s Feb-March SEC slate.

By: Mattox

Mattox — Thu, 19 Jan 2012 19:25:34 +0000

Kentucky’s schedule is ridiculously backloaded because of TV. If Stallings had UK (x2), UF (x2) & @ Mississippi State in a span of 26 days like Kentucky does, he’d be thowing a GD fit. It seems like he’s always whining about something. Perhaps he should focus his energy toward something more productive, like say not embarrassing the league and actually win a game in the NCAA Tournament.

By: Vols fan

Vols fan — Thu, 19 Jan 2012 19:03:42 +0000

John’s response: It doesn’t matter if it is fair ’cause TV pays the bill and therefore, gets to make the schedule however it pleases and besides it is only unfair if it isn’t your team that gets the advantage. Otherwise, if you point out the unfairness, you are just a whiner unless you are Alabama complaining about open dates of your opponents before football games, in which case it is OK and the SEC will correct the problem ASAP.

By: SEC is the best

SEC is the best — Thu, 19 Jan 2012 18:29:31 +0000

So unlike Stallings to cry about something.

By: Clockwatcher

Clockwatcher — Thu, 19 Jan 2012 18:05:13 +0000

…but did Auburn and LSU avoid the thur-sat turn around last year? I think the main issue is this is 2 years in a row UK gets off the hook.

This is the SEC not the Big 12. One team’s TV ratings should not effect scheduling.