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		<title>By: Playoff in 2012</title>
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		<dc:creator>Playoff in 2012</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 04:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Still the 14 team SEC is no way to find a champion  Why not divided the SEC into 2 Conferences of 10 teams each.  I am sure 6 really good teams would move, at least teams as good as Kentucky &amp; Tennessee in 2011.  Then you get 9 games and could drop the Patsy teams from the FCS while dropping to an 11 game season with better games for the fans &amp; alums.  TV would go crazy with excitement.  The 2 Champions could play then the winner goes to the National Championship Playoff and the other Champion goes to a New Years Day Sugar Bowl.  Again the best of all worlds]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still the 14 team SEC is no way to find a champion  Why not divided the SEC into 2 Conferences of 10 teams each.  I am sure 6 really good teams would move, at least teams as good as Kentucky &amp; Tennessee in 2011.  Then you get 9 games and could drop the Patsy teams from the FCS while dropping to an 11 game season with better games for the fans &amp; alums.  TV would go crazy with excitement.  The 2 Champions could play then the winner goes to the National Championship Playoff and the other Champion goes to a New Years Day Sugar Bowl.  Again the best of all worlds</p>
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		<title>By: Homepage &#124; MrSEC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Homepage &#124; MrSEC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 13:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] bigger issue here is something that we warned you about back on February 28th when we wrote that by deciding to stick with an eight-game conference [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] bigger issue here is something that we warned you about back on February 28th when we wrote that by deciding to stick with an eight-game conference [...]</p>
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		<title>By: No Decision Made on Future SEC Football Schedules</title>
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		<dc:creator>No Decision Made on Future SEC Football Schedules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 20:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] A&amp;M &#8211; don&#8217;t have as much tradition as the others and are expendable.As Mr. SEC points out, a nine-game conference schedule makes sense for several reasons. An additional SEC game [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A&amp;M &#8211; don&#8217;t have as much tradition as the others and are expendable.As Mr. SEC points out, a nine-game conference schedule makes sense for several reasons. An additional SEC game [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alabama &#124; MrSEC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alabama &#124; MrSEC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 13:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] game for their money&#8217;s worth.We&#8217;ve made our case for the nine-game schedule many times, including right here.Finally, last month word leaked that the SEC would likely stay with an eight-game schedule that [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] game for their money&#8217;s worth.We&#8217;ve made our case for the nine-game schedule many times, including right here.Finally, last month word leaked that the SEC would likely stay with an eight-game schedule that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: shakermaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>shakermaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 16:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why is it cowardice for MSU to set their schedule up to go bowling?  They tried beefing up the schedule in the past with Oregon, WVU, and Ga Tech.  All it resulted in was sitting at home during bowl season.  If you are an AD, do you want to keep the fans coming back while hanging on to the hope of a bowl game or do you want to disinterest them by giving them 5 win seasons?  Not every team in a conference can be consistent powers - simple math prevents that. 
 
MSU&#039;s (or a UK, Vandy, Ole Miss) goals are very different than Alabama&#039;s and LSU&#039;s.  That&#039;s fact.  Their goals are winning seasons and bowl games.  If those are your goals and your typical conference schedule is 3/4 Top 15 teams, it&#039;s not cowardice to schedule a weak OOC, it&#039;s common sense.  Let the whipping boys of the conference have a little something to look forward to at the end of the season.  The moment any of them get screwed over in bowl selections because of their OOC schedule, you will see them beef up the schedule.  The same logic can be carried forward to the upper echelon of the conference.  As soon as they someone is screwed over in the BCS because of a weak OOC, you will see a change.  Until that happens, carry on. 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it cowardice for MSU to set their schedule up to go bowling?  They tried beefing up the schedule in the past with Oregon, WVU, and Ga Tech.  All it resulted in was sitting at home during bowl season.  If you are an AD, do you want to keep the fans coming back while hanging on to the hope of a bowl game or do you want to disinterest them by giving them 5 win seasons?  Not every team in a conference can be consistent powers &#8211; simple math prevents that. <br />
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MSU&#8217;s (or a UK, Vandy, Ole Miss) goals are very different than Alabama&#8217;s and LSU&#8217;s.  That&#8217;s fact.  Their goals are winning seasons and bowl games.  If those are your goals and your typical conference schedule is 3/4 Top 15 teams, it&#8217;s not cowardice to schedule a weak OOC, it&#8217;s common sense.  Let the whipping boys of the conference have a little something to look forward to at the end of the season.  The moment any of them get screwed over in bowl selections because of their OOC schedule, you will see them beef up the schedule.  The same logic can be carried forward to the upper echelon of the conference.  As soon as they someone is screwed over in the BCS because of a weak OOC, you will see a change.  Until that happens, carry on. <br />
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		<title>By: SEC (at least) discussed a 9-game schedule - VolNation</title>
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		<dc:creator>SEC (at least) discussed a 9-game schedule - VolNation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 20:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] an opinion piece on the matter (bit of a read though)   Alabama &#124; MrSEC   [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Alabama &#124; MrSEC</title>
		<link>http://mrsec.com/2012/02/sec-a-d-s-will-discuss-9-game-schedule-slive-needs-to-push-for-it/comment-page-1/#comment-61295</link>
		<dc:creator>Alabama &#124; MrSEC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 15:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] rest of the world toughens their own schedules with additional guaranteed games against BCS foes.  You know our feelings on that one.  We believe being the only league which guarantees eight BCS foes per team per season will [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] rest of the world toughens their own schedules with additional guaranteed games against BCS foes.  You know our feelings on that one.  We believe being the only league which guarantees eight BCS foes per team per season will [...]</p>
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		<title>By: prairiehogcompanion</title>
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		<dc:creator>prairiehogcompanion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 22:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree totally. Either you have a conference. Or you have a confederation. That latter is nonsense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree totally. Either you have a conference. Or you have a confederation. That latter is nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: ConnGator</title>
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		<dc:creator>ConnGator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2012 14:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ @m_Ag This year Florida finishes the home schedule with UL-Lafayette and Jacksonville State.  I think that is pathetic, and would much prefer playing Ole Miss or Arkansas.  &quot;You&#039;ll Laugh&quot;?  Really?
 
We need nine SEC games!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> @m_Ag This year Florida finishes the home schedule with UL-Lafayette and Jacksonville State.  I think that is pathetic, and would much prefer playing Ole Miss or Arkansas.  &#8220;You&#8217;ll Laugh&#8221;?  Really?<br />
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We need nine SEC games!</p>
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		<title>By: lionel96</title>
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		<dc:creator>lionel96</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2012 04:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I see absolutely no advantages to the SEC for going to nine games.    The rivalry games are a poor argument.   Alabama and Tennessee have only done damage to each other over the years and best to end that rivalry.    The same scenario goes for UGA and Auburn.   You can even add in the Iron Bowl which is also a sick destructive rivalry.   There are many advantages for staying at eight--more revenue, more bowl participants, and a much better chance of an SEC team always making the NC game.    The best move for the SEC is to eliminate the divisions and let the two highest BCS ranked teams play for the NC.    The four plus one playoff is a great move so long as it is simple with four highest BCS ranked teams being the participants.    Better yet would be an eight game playoff as the President has suggested or still better a 16 game playoff.   Sixteen playoff teams should be the final limit and perhaps we should move slowly from four plus one to 8 to 16.   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see absolutely no advantages to the SEC for going to nine games.    The rivalry games are a poor argument.   Alabama and Tennessee have only done damage to each other over the years and best to end that rivalry.    The same scenario goes for UGA and Auburn.   You can even add in the Iron Bowl which is also a sick destructive rivalry.   There are many advantages for staying at eight&#8211;more revenue, more bowl participants, and a much better chance of an SEC team always making the NC game.    The best move for the SEC is to eliminate the divisions and let the two highest BCS ranked teams play for the NC.    The four plus one playoff is a great move so long as it is simple with four highest BCS ranked teams being the participants.    Better yet would be an eight game playoff as the President has suggested or still better a 16 game playoff.   Sixteen playoff teams should be the final limit and perhaps we should move slowly from four plus one to 8 to 16.   </p>
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		<title>By: SEC should expand to a nine-game league schedule &#124; SEC Football</title>
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		<dc:creator>SEC should expand to a nine-game league schedule &#124; SEC Football</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2012 03:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The prolific blogger Mr. SEC describes this matter—quite compellingly—in terms of conference cowardice. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The prolific blogger Mr. SEC describes this matter—quite compellingly—in terms of conference cowardice. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SEC Schedule Still In Doubt &#124; The LSU Hub Blog</title>
		<link>http://mrsec.com/2012/02/sec-a-d-s-will-discuss-9-game-schedule-slive-needs-to-push-for-it/comment-page-1/#comment-60865</link>
		<dc:creator>SEC Schedule Still In Doubt &#124; The LSU Hub Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2012 18:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] to go along with its expanded membership.  Or, as the always outstanding Mr. SEC.com put it in his must-read take on the situation, “the only reason not to go to a nine-game slate is pure [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to go along with its expanded membership.  Or, as the always outstanding Mr. SEC.com put it in his must-read take on the situation, “the only reason not to go to a nine-game slate is pure [...]</p>
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		<title>By: m_Ag</title>
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		<dc:creator>m_Ag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2012 18:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We could sign an agreement with both the ACC and Big 12 that every one of their schools play 1 SEC school.


This would give 10 SEC schools 2 quality non-conference games, while 4 SEC schools would each have to add 1 national matchups to get to 2 quality non-conference games.


My idea for matchups:


Florida FSU/(National)
Georgia GT/WV
SC Clemson/NC State
Tennessee UNC/(National)
Vandy Wake Forest/Syracuse
Kentucky Virginia/ (Louisville)
Missouri Kansas/Oklahoma State


Auburn Virginia Tech/Pitt
Alabama Miami/(National)
Ole Miss Baylor/Boston College
MSU KSU/Duke
LSU Oklahoma/Maryland
Arkansas TCU/Iowa State
A&amp;M Texas/Texas Tech


Kentucky would get Louisville (who might join the Big 12 anyway) as its second quality non-conference game.


Florida, Alabama, and Tennessee would be required to add Notre Dame, BYU, or a school from the Big Ten or Pac 12.


This would be great for the TV packages for the SEC, ACC, and Big 12.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We could sign an agreement with both the ACC and Big 12 that every one of their schools play 1 SEC school.</p>
<p>This would give 10 SEC schools 2 quality non-conference games, while 4 SEC schools would each have to add 1 national matchups to get to 2 quality non-conference games.</p>
<p>My idea for matchups:</p>
<p>Florida FSU/(National)<br />
Georgia GT/WV<br />
SC Clemson/NC State<br />
Tennessee UNC/(National)<br />
Vandy Wake Forest/Syracuse<br />
Kentucky Virginia/ (Louisville)<br />
Missouri Kansas/Oklahoma State</p>
<p>Auburn Virginia Tech/Pitt<br />
Alabama Miami/(National)<br />
Ole Miss Baylor/Boston College<br />
MSU KSU/Duke<br />
LSU Oklahoma/Maryland<br />
Arkansas TCU/Iowa State<br />
A&amp;M Texas/Texas Tech</p>
<p>Kentucky would get Louisville (who might join the Big 12 anyway) as its second quality non-conference game.</p>
<p>Florida, Alabama, and Tennessee would be required to add Notre Dame, BYU, or a school from the Big Ten or Pac 12.</p>
<p>This would be great for the TV packages for the SEC, ACC, and Big 12.</p>
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		<title>By: m_Ag</title>
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		<dc:creator>m_Ag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2012 18:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We could sign an agreement with both the ACC and Big 12 that every one of their schools play 1 SEC school.

This would give 10 SEC schools 2 quality non-conference games, while 4 SEC schools would each have to add 1 national matchups to get to 2 quality non-conference games.

My idea for matchups:

Florida FSU/(National)
Georgia GT/WV
SC Clemson/NC State
Tennessee UNC/(National)
Vandy Wake Forest/Syracuse
Kentucky Virginia/ (Louisville)
Missouri Kansas/Oklahoma State

Auburn Virginia Tech/Pitt
Alabama Miami/(National)
Ole Miss Baylor/Boston College
MSU KSU/Duke
LSU Oklahoma/Maryland
Arkansas TCU/Iowa State
A&amp;M Texas/Texas Tech

Kentucky would get Louisville (who might join the Big 12 anyway) as its second quality non-conference game.

Florida, Alabama, and Tennessee would be required to play Notre Dame, BYU, or a school from the Big Ten or Pac 12.

This would be great for the TV packages for the SEC, ACC, and Big 12.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We could sign an agreement with both the ACC and Big 12 that every one of their schools play 1 SEC school.</p>
<p>This would give 10 SEC schools 2 quality non-conference games, while 4 SEC schools would each have to add 1 national matchups to get to 2 quality non-conference games.</p>
<p>My idea for matchups:</p>
<p>Florida FSU/(National)<br />
Georgia GT/WV<br />
SC Clemson/NC State<br />
Tennessee UNC/(National)<br />
Vandy Wake Forest/Syracuse<br />
Kentucky Virginia/ (Louisville)<br />
Missouri Kansas/Oklahoma State</p>
<p>Auburn Virginia Tech/Pitt<br />
Alabama Miami/(National)<br />
Ole Miss Baylor/Boston College<br />
MSU KSU/Duke<br />
LSU Oklahoma/Maryland<br />
Arkansas TCU/Iowa State<br />
A&amp;M Texas/Texas Tech</p>
<p>Kentucky would get Louisville (who might join the Big 12 anyway) as its second quality non-conference game.</p>
<p>Florida, Alabama, and Tennessee would be required to play Notre Dame, BYU, or a school from the Big Ten or Pac 12.</p>
<p>This would be great for the TV packages for the SEC, ACC, and Big 12.</p>
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		<title>By: m_Ag</title>
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		<dc:creator>m_Ag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2012 18:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We could sign an agreement with both the ACC and Big 12 that every one of their schools play 1 SEC school.  This would give 10 SEC schools 2 quality non-conference games, while 4 SEC schools would each have to add 1 national matchups to get to 2 quality non-conference games.

My idea for matchups:

Florida FSU/(National)
Georgia GT/WV
SC    Clemson/NC State
Tennessee UNC/(National)
Vandy  Wake Forest/Syracuse
Kentucky Virginia/ (Louisville)
Missouri Kansas/Oklahoma State

Auburn Virginia Tech/Pitt
Alabama Miami/(National)
Ole Miss Baylor/Boston College
MSU KSU/Duke
LSU Oklahoma/Maryland
Arkansas TCU/Iowa State
A&amp;M  Texas/Texas Tech

Kentucky would get Louisville (who might join the Big 12 anyway) as its second quality non-conference game.

Florida, Alabama, and Tennessee would be required to add Notre Dame, BYU, or a school from the Big Ten or Pac 12.

This would be great for the TV packages for the SEC, ACC, and Big 12.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We could sign an agreement with both the ACC and Big 12 that every one of their schools play 1 SEC school.  This would give 10 SEC schools 2 quality non-conference games, while 4 SEC schools would each have to add 1 national matchups to get to 2 quality non-conference games.</p>
<p>My idea for matchups:</p>
<p>Florida FSU/(National)<br />
Georgia GT/WV<br />
SC    Clemson/NC State<br />
Tennessee UNC/(National)<br />
Vandy  Wake Forest/Syracuse<br />
Kentucky Virginia/ (Louisville)<br />
Missouri Kansas/Oklahoma State</p>
<p>Auburn Virginia Tech/Pitt<br />
Alabama Miami/(National)<br />
Ole Miss Baylor/Boston College<br />
MSU KSU/Duke<br />
LSU Oklahoma/Maryland<br />
Arkansas TCU/Iowa State<br />
A&amp;M  Texas/Texas Tech</p>
<p>Kentucky would get Louisville (who might join the Big 12 anyway) as its second quality non-conference game.</p>
<p>Florida, Alabama, and Tennessee would be required to add Notre Dame, BYU, or a school from the Big Ten or Pac 12.</p>
<p>This would be great for the TV packages for the SEC, ACC, and Big 12.</p>
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		<title>By: No decision made on eight- or nine-game SEC slate &#124; SEC Football</title>
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		<dc:creator>No decision made on eight- or nine-game SEC slate &#124; SEC Football</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2012 16:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] to go along with its expanded membership.  Or, as the always outstanding Mr. SEC.com put it in his must-read take on the situation, “the only reason not to go to a nine-game slate is pure [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to go along with its expanded membership.  Or, as the always outstanding Mr. SEC.com put it in his must-read take on the situation, “the only reason not to go to a nine-game slate is pure [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2012 15:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ @John at MrSEC  That is a good point - I really enjoy the regular season quality nonconference games, and I hope respect at the polls is enough to keep them motivated to schedule good nonconference competition.  As a fan, I get a lot more enjoyment out of those games (even in a close loss) than drubbing some D-IAA team up and down the field.
 
Alabama and LSU really benefited from their nonconference games this year.  That should be an example to the rest of the league.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> @John at MrSEC  That is a good point &#8211; I really enjoy the regular season quality nonconference games, and I hope respect at the polls is enough to keep them motivated to schedule good nonconference competition.  As a fan, I get a lot more enjoyment out of those games (even in a close loss) than drubbing some D-IAA team up and down the field.<br />
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Alabama and LSU really benefited from their nonconference games this year.  That should be an example to the rest of the league.</p>
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		<title>By: No decision made on eight- or nine-game SEC slate &#124; CollegeFootballTalk</title>
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		<title>By: Homepage &#124; MrSEC</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 22:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: RussH</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 15:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would think the SEC east play the ACC, and the SEC West play the Big 12. 
Mizzou gets a pass to play Kansas from the Big 12.
 
That would be the perfect plan, but then the Big12 is still in spoiled brat mode]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would think the SEC east play the ACC, and the SEC West play the Big 12. <br />
Mizzou gets a pass to play Kansas from the Big 12.<br />
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That would be the perfect plan, but then the Big12 is still in spoiled brat mode</p>
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		<title>By: RussH</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 15:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ @m_Ag Agreed.  While we all understand the non-conference cupcake to start the season and maybe one in the middle of the season.  We need QUALITY non conference games.  I will say Notre Dame is a quality game even if you know you will win it.
 
As a season ticket holder, I care about watching quality games.  As a fan of football, I care about watching quality games.
 
We need 8 conference games, 1 FBS  team,  1 lightweight ranked 50-100 type team (SMU/La Tech/Houston),  1 25-50 ranked team and a top 25 team every year.
The SEC just needs to encourage this.
 
As for Johns thing about saving rivalries, the way to do it is still the 3-5 plan so you get to play every team every other year.  Still get to keep 3 rivalries. 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> @m_Ag Agreed.  While we all understand the non-conference cupcake to start the season and maybe one in the middle of the season.  We need QUALITY non conference games.  I will say Notre Dame is a quality game even if you know you will win it.<br />
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As a season ticket holder, I care about watching quality games.  As a fan of football, I care about watching quality games.<br />
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We need 8 conference games, 1 FBS  team,  1 lightweight ranked 50-100 type team (SMU/La Tech/Houston),  1 25-50 ranked team and a top 25 team every year.<br />
The SEC just needs to encourage this.<br />
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As for Johns thing about saving rivalries, the way to do it is still the 3-5 plan so you get to play every team every other year.  Still get to keep 3 rivalries. <br />
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		<title>By: Bubba Gump</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bubba Gump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 14:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ @John at MrSEC 
The B12 is now less Nebraska, Colorado, TAMU, and Missouri. Even if West Virginia, TCU, UL, and Cincy are the eventual replacements, all 4 combined will not equal Nebraska. Last year the only 3 OOC games of note were TAMU vs Arkansas, OU vs FSU, and TCU vs Baylor. TAMU is gone, and TCU / Baylor will both see their wins fall at least a game or two a season in the future. In 2012 the only decent OOC game on the B12 schedule will be Oklahoma vs Notre Dame. At some point the sportswriters across the country are going to figure out how &quot;inflated&quot; the 9 game schedule is for the B12, and in 5 years or less they will sink from a legitimate #2 conference to battling the ACC for who gets the #5 slot. You can fool some of the people some of the time, but when that 9th conference game in the B12 is TT, ISU, KU, BU (less RG III) , KSU (less Snyder) , and TCU (with tougher conference games) you can not sit there with a serious face and say these games will command a national TV audience. None of this has to do with petty backbiting, and it is totally based on the lack of national appeal of 6 to 8 of the schools in the conference. I watch football all over the country all season and Texas Tech, Iowa State, Kansas, Baylor, Kansas State, and TCU are not &quot;must see&quot; TV every week. Boone Pickens money, and West Virginia elevate them to the next level, but unless Texas or Oklahoma are playing, how often will the average national fan turn on a B12 game?
 
The B1G spends the first 4 weeks beating up on MAC schools and how many of those games are getting the prime TV slot on Saturday? At least UM, MSU, and PU played Notre Dame for OOC exposure, but after that you were left with Nebraska vs Washington, Ohio State vs Miami, and Penn State vs Alabama. The PAC plays 9 conference games, but except for a maybe 3 teams (Southern Cal and 1-2 floaters) how many could keep up with even a middle of the pack SEC team? If the ACC follows suit, it will still be just a few teams at the top as Pitt and SU have not been serious football threats in at least a generation, and are probably approaching 2 generations of not mattering. If the 50&#039;s, 60&#039;s, or 70&#039;s were your historic highs, how do you compete with Florida State, Clemson, Virginia Tech, or Miami? I will lay good money that if Ole Miss played the bottoms of the other conference (Duke, Kansas, Indiana, Washington State) they would win 8 or 9 times out of 10. The other conferences have no problem at 9 games because their in conference strength is so weak already. Leave the 9 games to the nancy&#039;s outside of the SEC, and keep the SEC at 8 at least until the SEC stops bringing home the crystal football each season.
 
Every time I hear the SEC going to nine folks act like the worst OOC game on each schools schedule will be the one dropped. Call me the cynic, but I think the exact opposite will happen. With 4 OOC games the SEC schools can afford to gamble on 1 OOC game against an AQ foe in the top 20 or 30. If I am Nick Saban with 9 conference games am I going to keep a Penn State or Michigan on the schedule? If I am Les Miles and 2 of my 3 OOC conference games are Oregon and West Virginia on the road, will I let that schedule happen in the future?The problem with 9 games in the SEC means comparing apples to oranges, when folks keep acting like it is apples to apples. The SEC is the only conference where the worst teams can still beat the top dogs. Kentucky took down LSU 39-16-1 in their MNC year, and went to the bitter end against Auburn in their MNC run, and beat Auburn @ Auburn the year before. When was the last time Washington State took out Southern Cal 57-8-4? Duke took out Florida State 15-0-0? Indiana took out Ohio State 68-12-5? Iowa State took out Oklahoma 69-5-2? Any SEC coach going forward with serious MNC hopes will have to drop top OOC games to compensate for the added conference game or risk coaching suicide when you have a schedule that is much tougher than an ACC / B12 / B1G / PAC has to face to get to the MNC game.
 
Again, you chose to avoid the main point that this is just a money grab to have more marketable games the week before rivalry week in the SEC. If you put a conference game the week before UF vs FSU / USC vs Clemson / UGA vs GT do not cry foul when the AD&#039;s and coaches cancel those final game rivalries in the future. You can not have it both ways, and keep the SEC in the public eye with schools going undefeated at the end of the season. It also effectively closes the door on TAMU vs Texas or MU vs KU as the season ending rival game if they have to play a conference game the week before. There is a reason the SEC schedules weak the week before to enhance the high demand game the following week. To let ESPN change this just so they can get games in the &quot;dead week&quot; seems to be inviting failure. Here was the last two games in the SEC by school last season.
 
Alabama game 11 vs Georgia Southern, game 12 vs Auburn in Iron Bowl
Auburn game 11 vs Samford, game 12 vs Alabama in Iron Bowl
 
Arkansas game 11 vs Mississippi State, game 12 vs LSU in Golden Boot
LSU game 11 vs Mississippi, game 12 vs LSU in Golden Boot
 
Kentucky game 11 vs Georgia, game 12 vs Tennessee in border game
Tennessee game 11 vs Vanderbilt, game 12 vs Kentucky in border game
 
Mississippi State game 11 vs Arkansas, game 12 vs Mississippi in Egg Bowl
Mississippi game 11 vs LSU, game 12 vs Mississippi State in Egg Bowl
 
Florida game 11 vs Furman, game 12 vs Florida State in SEC vs ACC game
Georgia game 11 vs Kentucky, game 12 vs Georgia Tech in SEC vs ACC game
South Carolina game 11 vs Citadel, game 12 vs Clemson in SEC vs ACC game
Vanderbilt 11 vs Tennessee, game 12 vs Wake Forest in SEC vs ACC game
 
Notice a trend among the top schools in the SEC heading into their final games? If ESPN wants a better game 11 in the SEC, will they get it at the expense of the great game 12 games?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> @John at MrSEC <br />
The B12 is now less Nebraska, Colorado, TAMU, and Missouri. Even if West Virginia, TCU, UL, and Cincy are the eventual replacements, all 4 combined will not equal Nebraska. Last year the only 3 OOC games of note were TAMU vs Arkansas, OU vs FSU, and TCU vs Baylor. TAMU is gone, and TCU / Baylor will both see their wins fall at least a game or two a season in the future. In 2012 the only decent OOC game on the B12 schedule will be Oklahoma vs Notre Dame. At some point the sportswriters across the country are going to figure out how &#8220;inflated&#8221; the 9 game schedule is for the B12, and in 5 years or less they will sink from a legitimate #2 conference to battling the ACC for who gets the #5 slot. You can fool some of the people some of the time, but when that 9th conference game in the B12 is TT, ISU, KU, BU (less RG III) , KSU (less Snyder) , and TCU (with tougher conference games) you can not sit there with a serious face and say these games will command a national TV audience. None of this has to do with petty backbiting, and it is totally based on the lack of national appeal of 6 to 8 of the schools in the conference. I watch football all over the country all season and Texas Tech, Iowa State, Kansas, Baylor, Kansas State, and TCU are not &#8220;must see&#8221; TV every week. Boone Pickens money, and West Virginia elevate them to the next level, but unless Texas or Oklahoma are playing, how often will the average national fan turn on a B12 game?<br />
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The B1G spends the first 4 weeks beating up on MAC schools and how many of those games are getting the prime TV slot on Saturday? At least UM, MSU, and PU played Notre Dame for OOC exposure, but after that you were left with Nebraska vs Washington, Ohio State vs Miami, and Penn State vs Alabama. The PAC plays 9 conference games, but except for a maybe 3 teams (Southern Cal and 1-2 floaters) how many could keep up with even a middle of the pack SEC team? If the ACC follows suit, it will still be just a few teams at the top as Pitt and SU have not been serious football threats in at least a generation, and are probably approaching 2 generations of not mattering. If the 50&#8242;s, 60&#8242;s, or 70&#8242;s were your historic highs, how do you compete with Florida State, Clemson, Virginia Tech, or Miami? I will lay good money that if Ole Miss played the bottoms of the other conference (Duke, Kansas, Indiana, Washington State) they would win 8 or 9 times out of 10. The other conferences have no problem at 9 games because their in conference strength is so weak already. Leave the 9 games to the nancy&#8217;s outside of the SEC, and keep the SEC at 8 at least until the SEC stops bringing home the crystal football each season.<br />
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Every time I hear the SEC going to nine folks act like the worst OOC game on each schools schedule will be the one dropped. Call me the cynic, but I think the exact opposite will happen. With 4 OOC games the SEC schools can afford to gamble on 1 OOC game against an AQ foe in the top 20 or 30. If I am Nick Saban with 9 conference games am I going to keep a Penn State or Michigan on the schedule? If I am Les Miles and 2 of my 3 OOC conference games are Oregon and West Virginia on the road, will I let that schedule happen in the future?The problem with 9 games in the SEC means comparing apples to oranges, when folks keep acting like it is apples to apples. The SEC is the only conference where the worst teams can still beat the top dogs. Kentucky took down LSU 39-16-1 in their MNC year, and went to the bitter end against Auburn in their MNC run, and beat Auburn @ Auburn the year before. When was the last time Washington State took out Southern Cal 57-8-4? Duke took out Florida State 15-0-0? Indiana took out Ohio State 68-12-5? Iowa State took out Oklahoma 69-5-2? Any SEC coach going forward with serious MNC hopes will have to drop top OOC games to compensate for the added conference game or risk coaching suicide when you have a schedule that is much tougher than an ACC / B12 / B1G / PAC has to face to get to the MNC game.<br />
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Again, you chose to avoid the main point that this is just a money grab to have more marketable games the week before rivalry week in the SEC. If you put a conference game the week before UF vs FSU / USC vs Clemson / UGA vs GT do not cry foul when the AD&#8217;s and coaches cancel those final game rivalries in the future. You can not have it both ways, and keep the SEC in the public eye with schools going undefeated at the end of the season. It also effectively closes the door on TAMU vs Texas or MU vs KU as the season ending rival game if they have to play a conference game the week before. There is a reason the SEC schedules weak the week before to enhance the high demand game the following week. To let ESPN change this just so they can get games in the &#8220;dead week&#8221; seems to be inviting failure. Here was the last two games in the SEC by school last season.<br />
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Alabama game 11 vs Georgia Southern, game 12 vs Auburn in Iron Bowl<br />
Auburn game 11 vs Samford, game 12 vs Alabama in Iron Bowl<br />
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Arkansas game 11 vs Mississippi State, game 12 vs LSU in Golden Boot<br />
LSU game 11 vs Mississippi, game 12 vs LSU in Golden Boot<br />
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Kentucky game 11 vs Georgia, game 12 vs Tennessee in border game<br />
Tennessee game 11 vs Vanderbilt, game 12 vs Kentucky in border game<br />
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Mississippi State game 11 vs Arkansas, game 12 vs Mississippi in Egg Bowl<br />
Mississippi game 11 vs LSU, game 12 vs Mississippi State in Egg Bowl<br />
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Florida game 11 vs Furman, game 12 vs Florida State in SEC vs ACC game<br />
Georgia game 11 vs Kentucky, game 12 vs Georgia Tech in SEC vs ACC game<br />
South Carolina game 11 vs Citadel, game 12 vs Clemson in SEC vs ACC game<br />
Vanderbilt 11 vs Tennessee, game 12 vs Wake Forest in SEC vs ACC game<br />
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Notice a trend among the top schools in the SEC heading into their final games? If ESPN wants a better game 11 in the SEC, will they get it at the expense of the great game 12 games?</p>
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		<title>By: farmerl21</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 08:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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 More match-ups I would like to see.
Alabama-Oklahoma State,    Florida-Oklahoma,    Texas-Texas A&amp;M,    Kansas- Missouri,     Auburn- Texas Tech
West Virginia- Kentucky,      Arkansas- Kansas State,     LSU- TCU,    Vanderbilt- Baylor
Would definitely have bragging rights up for grabs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> @MoKelly<br />
 More match-ups I would like to see.<br />
Alabama-Oklahoma State,    Florida-Oklahoma,    Texas-Texas A&amp;M,    Kansas- Missouri,     Auburn- Texas Tech<br />
West Virginia- Kentucky,      Arkansas- Kansas State,     LSU- TCU,    Vanderbilt- Baylor<br />
Would definitely have bragging rights up for grabs.</p>
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		<title>By: John at MrSEC</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 05:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bubba Gump...
 
I&#039;ll only tackle the first of your points here.  The Big 12 just went to a 9-game schedule this year.  And the problems in that league have had nothing to do with schedules.  They&#039;ve had everything to do with petty backbiting brought about my schools paying more attention to their own good than the good of the league... failing to realize that a rising tide lifts all boats.
 
The rest of your argument -- &quot;if you like the SEC how can you favor a 9-game schedule&quot; -- could have been made when the league expanded from 6 to 7 league games... from 7 to 8 league games... and when it added a conference title game.  Unfortunately for the naysayers and worriers at those times, the SEC has gained in reputation and in trophies every time it&#039;s shown no fear.  It&#039;s no time to back down now.
 
But, if the league does stick with an 8-game schedule while everyone else locks in 9 BCS foes per year, I look forward to hearing SEC fans complain that the national media and coaches from other leagues aren&#039;t giving the league enough respect in the national polls.  Because that will be a definite result.  Be ready for it. 
 
Thanks for reading,
John]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bubba Gump&#8230;<br />
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I&#8217;ll only tackle the first of your points here.  The Big 12 just went to a 9-game schedule this year.  And the problems in that league have had nothing to do with schedules.  They&#8217;ve had everything to do with petty backbiting brought about my schools paying more attention to their own good than the good of the league&#8230; failing to realize that a rising tide lifts all boats.<br />
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The rest of your argument &#8212; &#8220;if you like the SEC how can you favor a 9-game schedule&#8221; &#8212; could have been made when the league expanded from 6 to 7 league games&#8230; from 7 to 8 league games&#8230; and when it added a conference title game.  Unfortunately for the naysayers and worriers at those times, the SEC has gained in reputation and in trophies every time it&#8217;s shown no fear.  It&#8217;s no time to back down now.<br />
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But, if the league does stick with an 8-game schedule while everyone else locks in 9 BCS foes per year, I look forward to hearing SEC fans complain that the national media and coaches from other leagues aren&#8217;t giving the league enough respect in the national polls.  Because that will be a definite result.  Be ready for it. <br />
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Thanks for reading,<br />
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		<title>By: Bubba Gump</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 01:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John, normally I am pretty in tune with your points but I must call foul on this one, what you label cowardice I call common sense.
 
1) You argue that the big 12 does 9, but look how badly that dysfunctional group has done. Anybody saying the SEC should follow the B12 lead is not playing with a full deck, or has a hidden agenda for such idiotic thinking. I will go so far as if the B12 does something, I want to be in the opposite camp!
 
2) While I note your observation of the B1G and PAC playing each other OOC, exactly how many BCS MNC&#039;s (that have not been recalled for scandals) do both those conferences have between them? The reason they have to play each other OOC is because neither has enough strong teams inside to make up strong schedules that are always deep as well. Again, when the B1G and PAC start bringing home the glass football on a regular basis, then get back to me.
 
3) As for the ACC, exactly how many glass footballs have they won since they went to 12? Please do not stand there and say adding SU and Pitt has made the football tougher in the ACC? Again, when you follow the laggards, soon you become one yourself, and I would sincerely hate that for the SEC.
 
Lets call it what it is, and who is really driving the bus. ESPN has the SEC contract and they want better games to show in the opening weeks, and in that critical week before the final week in the SEC where all the rivals play. The SEC already went west with Missouri to protect ESPN&#039;s investment in the ACC, why should they have to bow down again just to fill the Mouse with more dollars at the expense of the SEC. There is a reason the SEC schools play the patsy schools in the next to last week, and it has do do with winning more that just dollars. If Alabama plays Western Carolina before the Iron Bowl, can you blame them? The same can be said for Florida playing Jacksonville State before taking on Florida State. I actually like that the SEC schedules this way to allow its best teams a breather before big games, and national championship runs.
 
Aside from Oklahoma, the rest of the Big 12 schedules the easy wins in the beginning so they are all 3-0 starting conference play. This fall Texas plays the SEC, but they are picking on Old Miss and not Alabama or LSU. In the meantime the Tide rolls into Texas to play Michigan, and I will take that game any day over Bama vs Vandy for their 9th conference game. Do you really think LSU could have afforded to play Oregon and West Virginia on the road if they had 9 conference games as well? Frankly John, if you support the well being of the SEC as a whole, why would you want the 9th game? If you really want to make it better why not use that 9th game to schedule more SEC vs ACC contests in the east, and hold the west open to B12 games? Is there more demand for Missouri vs Oklahoma, or Missouri vs Ole Miss in terms of TV draws? Build it out so it looks like this for that 9th game :
 
SEC East :
Kentucky vs Duke
Tennessee vs UNC
USC vs Clemson
Florida vs FSU
Georgia vs Ga Tech
Vanderbilt vs UVA
Missouri vs Va Tech (until they play KU again)
 
SEC West :
LSU vs PAC team
Alabama vs B1G team
Auburn vs Miami
Mississippi vs Northwestern
Mississippi State vs Kansas State
Arkansas vs Kansas
TAMU vs BYU (until they play Texas again)
 
That would make ESPN happy as the ACC would get more football exposure, while getting 2 conferences involved instead of just the bottom feeders of the SEC. I hate that they always act like that 9th game will be Alabama vs Florida, when the reality is it will more likely be Ole Miss vs Kentucky. An 8 game conference schedule with a solid OOC across the board for the 9th game leaves the weak first game warm up for game 10, a mid season breather non AQ FBS for game 11, and a patsy for the pre rival game as the 12th game. i still think that keeps the SEC plenty competitive for the TV audience, but without adding the extra conference loss that kills MNC runs. What do you think?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, normally I am pretty in tune with your points but I must call foul on this one, what you label cowardice I call common sense.<br />
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1) You argue that the big 12 does 9, but look how badly that dysfunctional group has done. Anybody saying the SEC should follow the B12 lead is not playing with a full deck, or has a hidden agenda for such idiotic thinking. I will go so far as if the B12 does something, I want to be in the opposite camp!<br />
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2) While I note your observation of the B1G and PAC playing each other OOC, exactly how many BCS MNC&#8217;s (that have not been recalled for scandals) do both those conferences have between them? The reason they have to play each other OOC is because neither has enough strong teams inside to make up strong schedules that are always deep as well. Again, when the B1G and PAC start bringing home the glass football on a regular basis, then get back to me.<br />
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3) As for the ACC, exactly how many glass footballs have they won since they went to 12? Please do not stand there and say adding SU and Pitt has made the football tougher in the ACC? Again, when you follow the laggards, soon you become one yourself, and I would sincerely hate that for the SEC.<br />
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Lets call it what it is, and who is really driving the bus. ESPN has the SEC contract and they want better games to show in the opening weeks, and in that critical week before the final week in the SEC where all the rivals play. The SEC already went west with Missouri to protect ESPN&#8217;s investment in the ACC, why should they have to bow down again just to fill the Mouse with more dollars at the expense of the SEC. There is a reason the SEC schools play the patsy schools in the next to last week, and it has do do with winning more that just dollars. If Alabama plays Western Carolina before the Iron Bowl, can you blame them? The same can be said for Florida playing Jacksonville State before taking on Florida State. I actually like that the SEC schedules this way to allow its best teams a breather before big games, and national championship runs.<br />
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Aside from Oklahoma, the rest of the Big 12 schedules the easy wins in the beginning so they are all 3-0 starting conference play. This fall Texas plays the SEC, but they are picking on Old Miss and not Alabama or LSU. In the meantime the Tide rolls into Texas to play Michigan, and I will take that game any day over Bama vs Vandy for their 9th conference game. Do you really think LSU could have afforded to play Oregon and West Virginia on the road if they had 9 conference games as well? Frankly John, if you support the well being of the SEC as a whole, why would you want the 9th game? If you really want to make it better why not use that 9th game to schedule more SEC vs ACC contests in the east, and hold the west open to B12 games? Is there more demand for Missouri vs Oklahoma, or Missouri vs Ole Miss in terms of TV draws? Build it out so it looks like this for that 9th game :<br />
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SEC East :<br />
Kentucky vs Duke<br />
Tennessee vs UNC<br />
USC vs Clemson<br />
Florida vs FSU<br />
Georgia vs Ga Tech<br />
Vanderbilt vs UVA<br />
Missouri vs Va Tech (until they play KU again)<br />
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SEC West :<br />
LSU vs PAC team<br />
Alabama vs B1G team<br />
Auburn vs Miami<br />
Mississippi vs Northwestern<br />
Mississippi State vs Kansas State<br />
Arkansas vs Kansas<br />
TAMU vs BYU (until they play Texas again)<br />
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That would make ESPN happy as the ACC would get more football exposure, while getting 2 conferences involved instead of just the bottom feeders of the SEC. I hate that they always act like that 9th game will be Alabama vs Florida, when the reality is it will more likely be Ole Miss vs Kentucky. An 8 game conference schedule with a solid OOC across the board for the 9th game leaves the weak first game warm up for game 10, a mid season breather non AQ FBS for game 11, and a patsy for the pre rival game as the 12th game. i still think that keeps the SEC plenty competitive for the TV audience, but without adding the extra conference loss that kills MNC runs. What do you think?</p>
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		<dc:creator>John at MrSEC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 23:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dustin...
 
If the SEC went to a 9-game schedule, but failed to play solid nonconference competition -- and let&#039;s face it, not all school face quality noncon opponents now -- then it could bite them at the polls.  And whatever championship system they come up with, polls will somehow be involved -- either in picking the our best teams or the four best conference champions.  Even a selection committee would consider strength of schedule.  
 
Thanks for reading,
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If the SEC went to a 9-game schedule, but failed to play solid nonconference competition &#8212; and let&#8217;s face it, not all school face quality noncon opponents now &#8212; then it could bite them at the polls.  And whatever championship system they come up with, polls will somehow be involved &#8212; either in picking the our best teams or the four best conference champions.  Even a selection committee would consider strength of schedule.  <br />
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		<dc:creator>MoKelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 21:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like this idea and would like the Big 12 as teh other Conference. Texas - A&amp;M and Mizzou - Kansas. One could make an argument that the Big 12 is the 2nd best football conference.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this idea and would like the Big 12 as teh other Conference. Texas &#8211; A&amp;M and Mizzou &#8211; Kansas. One could make an argument that the Big 12 is the 2nd best football conference.</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 21:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only thing that worries me about a nine-game conference schedule is that schools may possibly stop scheduling quality non conference opponents.  As you noted, above, many schools are already doing this anyway, but I&#039;ll give an example of what I&#039;m talking about.
 
I am a Tennessee fan and every year they schedule a quality (read: BCS school) non conference game, which to me is one of the hi lights of the year.  I believe one reason they do this is for recruiting since they generally need to recruit out of state.  In 2013 for example, they will be traveling to Oregon, and in the coming decade they have scheduled home and homes with Oklahoma, Ohio State and Nebraska.  I think a nine game conference schedule is the best solution, but I don&#039;t want to lose these out of conference games.  I hope Dave Hart doesn&#039;t show the cowardice you refer to in deciding whether to keep these games.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing that worries me about a nine-game conference schedule is that schools may possibly stop scheduling quality non conference opponents.  As you noted, above, many schools are already doing this anyway, but I&#8217;ll give an example of what I&#8217;m talking about.<br />
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I am a Tennessee fan and every year they schedule a quality (read: BCS school) non conference game, which to me is one of the hi lights of the year.  I believe one reason they do this is for recruiting since they generally need to recruit out of state.  In 2013 for example, they will be traveling to Oregon, and in the coming decade they have scheduled home and homes with Oklahoma, Ohio State and Nebraska.  I think a nine game conference schedule is the best solution, but I don&#8217;t want to lose these out of conference games.  I hope Dave Hart doesn&#8217;t show the cowardice you refer to in deciding whether to keep these games.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 21:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: deltaboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>deltaboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 20:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If they weren&#039;t prepared to go to a nine game conference schedule, they should never have expanded the league!]]></description>
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		<title>By: John at MrSEC</title>
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		<dc:creator>John at MrSEC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 20:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[m_Ag...
 
Exactly.
 
Thanks for reading,
John]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>m_Ag&#8230;<br />
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Exactly.<br />
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Thanks for reading,<br />
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		<title>By: m_Ag</title>
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		<dc:creator>m_Ag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 20:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They would have the most balanced conference schedule in the league:  4 conference home games, 4 conference away games, 1 neutral conference game.
 
Of course, they could only have 6 total home games in the years they play FSU or Georgia Tech away.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They would have the most balanced conference schedule in the league:  4 conference home games, 4 conference away games, 1 neutral conference game.<br />
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Of course, they could only have 6 total home games in the years they play FSU or Georgia Tech away.</p>
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		<title>By: kaput</title>
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		<dc:creator>kaput</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 19:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If scheduling goes to nine games, Georgia and Florida will rotate having three homes versus five away games every other year.   That&#039;s just simply not fair, regardless of whatever words, labels and put downs you guys want to use.  It&#039;s just wrong. 
 
Doing so would eliminate the World&#039;s Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party, and that&#039;s a damn shame.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If scheduling goes to nine games, Georgia and Florida will rotate having three homes versus five away games every other year.   That&#8217;s just simply not fair, regardless of whatever words, labels and put downs you guys want to use.  It&#8217;s just wrong. <br />
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Doing so would eliminate the World&#8217;s Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party, and that&#8217;s a damn shame.</p>
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		<title>By: m_Ag</title>
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		<dc:creator>m_Ag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 18:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Big Ten will have  8 conference games + the Pac 12 game+generally at least one other good game (3 schools play Notre Dame, Iowa plays Iowa State, PSU plays an Eastern team).


I&#039;d prefer the SEC stay at 8 conference games but require schools to schedule at least 2 &#039;good&#039; non-conference games.  1 of those might be Big East level, but we should be required to play other decent schools.  I&#039;d like our ADs and TV executives to have meetings and reduce TV payments to schools that don&#039;t meet this minimum requirement.

The Mississippi schools could get away with scheduling a Memphis (which will be a Big East school) but would need at least 1better series.  They should be able to get a school like Indiana, NC State, or BYU to schedule them home and away.

This requirement would add value to our TV packages, and would give the conference a chance to beat up on other conference schools instead of each other.  Sure, we won&#039;t win every game, but if we&#039;re the best we&#039;ll win a solid majority and come out looking better for it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Big Ten will have  8 conference games + the Pac 12 game+generally at least one other good game (3 schools play Notre Dame, Iowa plays Iowa State, PSU plays an Eastern team).</p>
<p>I&#8217;d prefer the SEC stay at 8 conference games but require schools to schedule at least 2 &#8216;good&#8217; non-conference games.  1 of those might be Big East level, but we should be required to play other decent schools.  I&#8217;d like our ADs and TV executives to have meetings and reduce TV payments to schools that don&#8217;t meet this minimum requirement.</p>
<p>The Mississippi schools could get away with scheduling a Memphis (which will be a Big East school) but would need at least 1better series.  They should be able to get a school like Indiana, NC State, or BYU to schedule them home and away.</p>
<p>This requirement would add value to our TV packages, and would give the conference a chance to beat up on other conference schools instead of each other.  Sure, we won&#8217;t win every game, but if we&#8217;re the best we&#8217;ll win a solid majority and come out looking better for it.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 18:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To match the Big 10-Pac 12 9 conference game + 1 game vs the opposite league, should the SEC set up a similar scheduling format with ACC/Big East or even Big 12 (Texas vs. A&amp;M again?)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To match the Big 10-Pac 12 9 conference game + 1 game vs the opposite league, should the SEC set up a similar scheduling format with ACC/Big East or even Big 12 (Texas vs. A&amp;M again?)</p>
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		<title>By: MoKelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoKelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 18:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: John at MrSEC</title>
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		<dc:creator>John at MrSEC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 18:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Breathofdeath...
 
If the NCAA goes to a 7-game bowl eligibility standard then all bets are off across the board.  But I think there&#039;s going to be quite a fight from mid-level programs to prevent a raising of the eligibility standard.  If the eligibility standard does go up, then coaches and ADs in every league would be even more opposed better scheduling.  Cupcakes for everyone!
 
Thanks for reading... and for reading closely,
John]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Breathofdeath&#8230;<br />
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If the NCAA goes to a 7-game bowl eligibility standard then all bets are off across the board.  But I think there&#8217;s going to be quite a fight from mid-level programs to prevent a raising of the eligibility standard.  If the eligibility standard does go up, then coaches and ADs in every league would be even more opposed better scheduling.  Cupcakes for everyone!<br />
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Thanks for reading&#8230; and for reading closely,<br />
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		<title>By: Breathofdeath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Breathofdeath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 17:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe you also said (correct me if I&#039;m wrong) that the SEC would eventually go to a nine game conference schedule unless 7 wins became necessary for bowl eligibility.  If that scenerio were to occur, do you think the conferences that currently play or are implementing 9 game conference schedules would maintain those or adopt schedules more friendly to bowl eligibility?  I&#039;m interested in knowing you opinion.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe you also said (correct me if I&#8217;m wrong) that the SEC would eventually go to a nine game conference schedule unless 7 wins became necessary for bowl eligibility.  If that scenerio were to occur, do you think the conferences that currently play or are implementing 9 game conference schedules would maintain those or adopt schedules more friendly to bowl eligibility?  I&#8217;m interested in knowing you opinion.  </p>
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