Since A&M is 0-3 against Arkansas in JerryWorld, including being outscored 96-50 after the first quarter, I'm not really surprised they want out. The game has been financially beneficial for both sides (albeit not as beneficial as initially thought) but getting spanked inside the glorious state of Texas doesn't do much for the Aggie image.
Old Army is correct, there are 7 games left, the last five of which are to be played in JerryWorld.
Here's what I don't get. A poster makes a comment about the game. He does nothing to insult Arkansas in any way.
But you decide to take shots at his team.
I understand comment boxes have become the new anonymous, social sandboxes for our nation's kiddies, but why be ugly? Did that make you feel better somehow? What's the motivation?
I've never understood trash-talking fans. Just makes me want to see those fans' favorite teams get their rumps handed to them. And with all the Arkansas program has been through in the past month, I think I'd keep my mouth shut for a while if I were a Hog fan.
For the record, I don't recall seeing "OldArmy" come here to mock and/or celebrate Bobby Petrino's downfall.
Just my take,
@John at MrSEC For the record, (1) thanks for taking the time for a lesson in civility and (2) the series is tied (or pretty close to it), although the Hogs have done much better than A&M in the last two decades, and not an Aggie out there happy about under achieving during the Sherman era.
For Fayettechill14, I prefer to actually visit the campi of the teams we play. In the real world (not living thru the garbage of this medium), great adversaries make the best friends.
Heres an example: In 1976, the Aggie band decided not to travel to the game in Fayetteville, as we decided to travel instead to our last scheduled game against LSU for the forseeable future. Arkansas fans raised a fit, their complaints got all the way to your state legislature, and our band office was deluged with calls asking us to reconsider. The upshot was, to get us there, YOUR band offered to give up their time on the field at half time for us to show up. We came, and Arkansas tore us up on the field (final score was 31-0 I believe), but the Hogs in the stands gave our band the longest standing ovation I think we ever got.
Still rank that as one of the best road trips we ever took. The fans at UA were terrific, the state police escorted us from the Arkansas border all the way to the stadium, we were thanked for coming just about every where we went (it was a pretty funny storyline in both Texas and Arkansas papers), etc. I still have a soft spot in my lil' ol Aggie heart for you Razorbacks because of that trip, three decades later.
I'm going to the A&M / Alabama game. Expect to get pounded on the field (I'll be praying, but.....), but I expect to leave that stadium with great memories of the fine folks who root for the Tide. You might try appreciating the folks from universities your team plays, and you don't get that IMHO from neutral sites.
And Good Luck to Coach Smith. He's got a huge, and important job. Arkansas is a great institution and its in the SEC. Two reasons for every Aggie out there to wish you God Speed. If you go to this years' game at Kyle Field, wear your colors go to Midnight Yell and go to the Chicken and have a beer. Odds are an Ag will buy the first round. That's what college ball is all about. End of Sermon.
@John at MrSEC Well, have you beat.... 56, ugh...... I can remember watching Bear Bryant coach his first came in a domed stadium..... sans hat.
And I hope Fayettechill14 is not going anywhere. My skin is not so thin I can't accept a little humble pie... but I like it ala mode with whipped cream, if you please.
Clearly the answer is dinosaur. And at 41. Dang.
Thanks for reading. I appreciate Fayettechill14's loyal readership, too... I'm just not big on this becoming yet another internet shooting gallery.
@John at MrSEC John, you are either a dinosaur or a pioneer...... not sure which, but I like your style.
No, no. You misunderstood. I think "trash talk" is silly and juvenile in real life, much less on the internet. I simply wondered what thrill someone gets from firing insults from behind an anonymous user name.
Now, if folks are going to trash talk on their home team's messageboard or even face-to-face, that impacts me not. But when people decide to come here and trash talk, well, it's a bit like doing it in my living room.
I want intelligent people coming here. I'm not a guy who trolls for the lowest common denominator by writing things I don't mean or by trying to intentionally tick people off. If I were, we'd get a helluva lot more pageviews. Those guys make big bucks because idiots react to every barb they toss and then they react to one another. If I were a sharper businessman, I'd follow their lead.
Alas, I wouldn't be able to sleep at night writing that crap knowing that I was feeding into the overall negativity that's so pervasive on the internet to begin with.
The bottom line is this... if someone comes to my site and makes a comment that's in no way offensive to any other party... then I'd prefer that person not have to put up with the kind of jibber-jabber found on newspaper sites and "GottaLoveMyTeam.com" sites across the internet.
Just my take,
(1) I did not say the game, before A&M entered the SEC, was not beneficial, I said it was not as good as home and home (and it was implied - when both teams are competing in the same division in the same conference). In 2010, the attendance at the game was 71,000. Big whoop. Not even close to capacity (and way below the lofty top end projections that the game would eventually bring in 100,000 a game), and far less than A&M averages for a home conference game.
(2) Now that we play in the same revenue sharing conference, TV revenues are going to be the same no matter where you play as an SEC team. Unless Jerry has a separate TV deal that he negotiated that bypasses the revenue sharing. Possible, but I have not heard a thing about that. Regardless,the game is no longer a non conference novelty. It is now part of a much larger financial umbrella that negates many of the advantages it had. Hard to argue that. And no doubt Arkansas has had a better return on the game. And you deserved to. You fielded better teams for three years running. It was a deal that turned out very well for your sports program. But times have changed and the financials have changed. Not surprisingly, A&M will make out much better with a conference game to be home and home. And if the revenue stream was neutral (and it is not projected to be), there is the recruiting issue. And if the shoe was on the other foot, Arkansas would be working on figuring out how to not exercise too many of the 5 year contract options.
And talk about trash talk aside, good to be in the same conference with you guys. Will make the game a lot more interesting.
I like Texas A&M as a university. One of my best buddies is in the Corps down there, and I am EXCITED about going to College Station next fall. However, I highly doubt Texas A&M had me and my buddy in mind when they began their push to move the game to campus locations. I think going 0-3 on national television in a named rivalry game was the number one reason.
If A&M was 3-0 at this point they would not be complaining; and honestly, Arkansas probably would be. But the "it wasn't generating enough money" argument is BS. Games like the Southwest Classic are mutually beneficial to both schools, unless you lose.
And best of luck to A&M under Sumlin, as well. I've pulled for A&M during the past couple of seasons in the Big XII.
@John at MrSEC Sorry, my error, the game was moved to Little Rock that year.
Correction, I believe it's 89-43 after the first quarter. Doing that in my head without looking up the boxscores was a bad idea.