Comments on: There’s “Good” News and Bad News For USC’s Lattimore

By: SevierVol

SevierVol — Tue, 30 Oct 2012 15:46:13 +0000

If Gordon was indeed trying to hurt Lattimore, he would have hiit his previously injured left knee which was closer to him on the play. This was an unfortunate accident that happens occasionally in football and nothing more.. Had this same hit of happened in mop-up time against a back-up RB,, it would never have been questioned. Besides, I’m not convinced that UT’s secondary is even capable of planning and executing a dirty hit since they struggle to get close enough to make any kind of contact.

By: dynamitefan2

dynamitefan2 — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 21:36:02 +0000

Horrible injury. Lattimore is just snakebitten he’s coming off an injury and now this happens to him. Bad things happen to good people

By: train21reb

train21reb — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 18:41:30 +0000

@John at MrSEC Hotty Toddy, John. Hotty Toddy! It’s obvious to me who your “real” favorite SEC team is.
Thanks for responding to my injury comment. And I guess I should have specified that yes, Lattimore did have a dislocated knee cap. That was one of the results of the general knee dislocation. But by far, that was not the most serious aspect of the ordeal.

By: bvkv09

bvkv09 — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 18:31:09 +0000

@John at MrSEC @Boyd Crowder sorry Boyd not “Bowd”.

By: bvkv09

bvkv09 — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 18:30:39 +0000

@John at MrSEC @Boyd Crowder John,

There is no point in arguing with Bowd aka: George Noory. Thanks for all the hard work, and this is from a Tennessee fan that thinks you do a fair job. There is no way that Eric Gordon purposely hurt Lattimore. Regardless of what Eric Ainge said. This is the type of thing that I absolutely hate reading on a message board.

By: John at MrSEC

John at MrSEC — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 18:03:19 +0000

@Boyd Crowder

And now we’ve crossed over into “you must be a fan of School X” territory. Never fails.

Well, you obviously don’t keep up with things on this site. First, I was blasted at the time by a few Vol fans for posting Ainge’s dumb comment when he made it:

http://www.mrsec.com/2012/10/ex-ut-qb-ainge-tells-radio-show-vols-should-step-on-bama-qb-mccarrons-knee/

Also, since you’re not keeping on current events, I broke a story last week that Derek Dooley and a chunk of Tennessee fans took issue with:

http://www.mrsec.com/2012/10/dooley-denies-buyout-claim-id-be-a-real-dumbass-to-do-that/

By this point, it should be wickedly clear that I’m not a fan of ANY team in the SEC. I cover them. I tell you what I think (with no regard for potential backlash) and I tell you what I believe to be true (always explaining whether it’s my opinion or sourced information).

I’ve written nice things about each school when it’s been called for… and I’ve written not-so-nice things about those same schools when that’s been called for.

You’re on Conspiracy Island on this one. But for kicks, again, I ask you to take note of whether or not South Carolina’s DBs tackle ballcarriers low or high. You’ll find that most DBs tackle low.

Thanks for reading,
John

By: John at MrSEC

John at MrSEC — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 17:41:14 +0000

@train21reb

It was reported in a number of places that it was a dislocated “knee cap” (here’s one: http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/28/lattimore-injury-season-ending-knee-dislocation-at-minimum/), but I didn’t hear his presser first hand.

When I saw the injury, I immediately thought of former Georgia running back Robert Edwards who destroyed his knee in a beach football game as in a Pro Bowl-related NFL rookie contest. Word eventually came out that doctors had had to save his leg due to the same type of blood supply issues you mentioned. I wondered why they were taking so long in getting him out of the stadium and to the hospital just on the off-chance that his injury was as dangerous as Edwards.

Edwards eventually made it back to the NFL but he never recaptured the magic of his rookie season.

Now, we’re not the doctors and we can only go by what they say via South Carolina releases. So amputation talk is just as much speculation as “knee cap” dislocation talk might have been. Here’s hoping it is NOT as serious as Edwards’ injury.

Very sad. Very sad.

John

By: train21reb

train21reb — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 16:34:08 +0000

I’m almost certain that Spurrier, from what I read yesterday, didn’t say dislocated knee cap (patella). He said dislocated knee. That one word makes a huge difference.
Just watching the video live, it was plain to see that Lattimore had a true knee dislocation. All of his stabilizing ligaments were torn, putting his neurovascular structures to his knee and leg in danger. This is similar to McGahee, but McGahee’s injury wasn’t a true dislocation in that his didn’t stay out of place. He “only” and I use that word loosely, he “only” tore both his ACL and PCL.
The release from USC is positive in nature, and you can’t blame them for that. In reality, Lattimore will be lucky just to walk again. Complications from this injury are sometimes BTK (below the knee) amputation because the blood supply is compromised even when the knee is relocated in just a few minutes.
Make no mistake, this is as bad of a knee injury as anyone can sustain. He will be lucky to walk again (not lose the leg) and his football career is over.
Sad, but true.

By: Boyd Crowder

Boyd Crowder — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 16:23:40 +0000

this is my last post on this – but im going to answer your questions

But even if Erik Ainge suggested “taking out a knee,” why would UT players
a) take their advice from him, HE IS A VOL, A FORMER PLAYER (VOL FOR LIFE, REMEMBER)
b) wait a week to follow that advice, CAUSE THEY DIDNT TAKE IT @ BAMA AND THEY LOST
c) wait until the second quarter to finally carry through with it? IT TOOK TILL THEM TO GET THE PERFECT CHEAP SHOT ON THE KNEE

Im concerned you dont have any interest in a very public story of a former vol telling the currect team to “bend” the rules” and “get a 15 yard penalty” IT IS NOT FARFETCHED that a team thats O for sec and on the road and about to lose their coach would resort to the advice of a former team mate and take out a knee.

my only conclusion, u dare not offend the vol fanbase. But once the shock of the video wears off in south carolina, they are going to put this puzzle together, and realize that this shot to the knee was premeditated.

By: John at MrSEC

John at MrSEC — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 16:09:12 +0000

@Boyd Crowder

Actually, the player-turned-radio-guy said a Tennessee player should step on AJ McCarron’s knee on the first play of the Tennessee-Alabama game to send a message to Bama players that UT’s players weren’t scared of them.

But even if Erik Ainge suggested “taking out a knee,” why would UT players a) take their advice from him, b) wait a week to follow that advice, and c) wait until the second quarter to finally carry through with it?

The only way to tie the ex-player’s “shock jock” comments to what happened on Saturday is to point out once again just how stupid Ainge’s comment was in the first place… because he’s given others the opportunity to connect imaginary dots from his chatter to on-field actions.

I’ve done a lot of TV and radio in my time, and I’ve never heard of a team taking its cue from an ex-player-turned-radio-host.

Thanks again for reading,
John

By: Boyd Crowder

Boyd Crowder — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:35:08 +0000

the fact remains – the former vol QB said last game to “take out a knee” and this week – they took out a knee

thats two close to be a coincidence (and it smells)

By: John at MrSEC

John at MrSEC — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:23:38 +0000

@Boyd Crowder

Sorry, not buying that one. Running backs and receivers are tackled low all the time. It was an ugly football play, but I sure don’t think it was intentional. Regardless of what former Tennessee player Erik Ainge said a week prior regarding Alabama’s AJ McCarron.

The human body isn’t made to play football. It’s a wonder more ankles and knees aren’t snapped on a regular basis. And that’s not even getting into what we’re learning about brain trauma in football.

But I can’t go with you on the cheap shot thing. Pay attention to how many ballcarriers are hit low by defensive backs and you’ll see that there was nothing out of the ordinary in the Lattimore play… aside from the sad, terrible result.

Thanks for reading the site,
John

By: John at MrSEC

John at MrSEC — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:19:45 +0000

@mb6783

You’re correct. Not sure why — other than it’s morning! — I wrote third round instead of first, but I’ve flipped that word in the post.
Good catch.

John

By: mb6783

mb6783 — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 14:43:45 +0000

Willis McGahee was a first rd pick by the Bills in the 2003 draft. Picked 23rd. He has had a solid career and I sure hope Marcus can do the same. I dare say there has never been a more popular Gamecock football player, we love Marcus in Carolina, and everyone respects him. Even Clemson players and fans were tweeting well wishes to him. Today is the young mans birthday, what a birthday present.

By: Boyd Crowder

Boyd Crowder — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 14:20:51 +0000

I thought it was a cheap shot! He went head first into the knees full speed. And all this follows last weeks encouragement from the former vol QB to this vol team to take out the knee of the best player if they wanted to win. He said it! The did it! And it stinks of intentional!