Comments on: Time To Stop The Doom-N-Gloom Talk: No SEC School Is Facing A “Gotta Get It Right” Hire

By: Usn8retVol

Usn8retVol — Fri, 23 Nov 2012 03:16:39 +0000

Just a note to the folks at MrSEC, I am new to most boards, but I have to tell you the comments on this one are top shelf. None of the usual BS I have been reading on some Tennessee message boards (and BTWi am a die-hard Vol Fan living in West Georgia). I have found a home to get my SEC news! Thanks!

By: buddha22

buddha22 — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 02:27:24 +0000

@j_scott_o You lost me with the OU won some games in the SWC…well, maybe non-conference.

By: j_scott_o

j_scott_o — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 14:54:12 +0000

This is an EXCELLENT article! This is what I always argue on boards. Fans are always about the “here & now”, which is fine, but, it isn’t the end all. Like you said in the article, teams and conferences are cyclical. Saban is an example I use in my arguments all the time for both Bama & LSU. LSU was struggling just like Bama until Saban came along. LSU just got lucky that they got Miles after Saban bolted for the NFL.

Another example is the Big12. In the 90s, the Big8 was dominated by Nebraska, Colorado, and KSU…with Nebraska being the most dominant…3 championships…and was owning every SEC team it played in bowl games. In the SWC, A&M was the force. Oklahoma and Texas won some games, but, they were very mediocre teams. Nebraska had a legendary coach in Osborne, as did A&M with Slocum. Then, the Big12 was formed. Both A&M and Nebraska were predicted to be the powers for years to come in the South and North, respectively. Then, something happened, Osborne retired, Slocum had a couple bad seasons and was fired (stupid), while at the same time Oklahoma and Texas made great hires in Stoops and Brown, respectively. So great were those hires that they are still there, over 10 years later. Both schools have won a national title. This hurt the recruiting of both Nebraska, and even more so, A&M. Nebraska jumped thru 2 coaches (Solich, Callahan) before finding their man in Pelini. They still aren’t back to their glory days, but, they are on the verge of winning the B1G in their 2nd year in that conference. Likewise, A&M made two horrible hires for them with Franchione & Sherman. It now looks like A&M found their man in Sumlin. But, both had a decade or more of mediocrity b/c of the hires while their main rivals basked in glory.

What is also amusing is every year you hear both the OU & tu fanbases screaming for change…get new coaches, our coaches are horrible. I beleive they have become spoiled. They forget how it was prior to Stoops & Brown. My guess is, in the next few years, when each does make a change, if it isn’t the right coach they may struggle for a few years. But, it is in no way a gloom and doom forever situation.

It is cyclical.

By: BonzaiB

BonzaiB — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 14:40:56 +0000

“Our world is now filled with people who have shorter attention spans, less patience, and an overall greater sense of entitlement. ”

Respectfully I would have added, “the belief in their own infalibility on topics for which they have no expertise.” Sorry, but blog postings (and I am guilty of this all the time) tend to be made as a reaction to immediate events rather than as part of a reflective thought process.

Two years ago, after the UF-Alabama game, every Gator web site was awash with tales of woe. At the time, UF had the best atheletic facilities, overall in the SEC, one of its best recruiting classes in history was around the corner, and here we are today. Texas was the undisputed power in the state in the recent past, Ohio State was in decline and Natre Dame was “never going to live up to its storied legacy.”

One headline posted yesterday said “Texas A&M is the hottest program in college football today.” The word “today” was the smartest part of that headline. Tomorrow it will be…..

By: bvkv09

bvkv09 — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 14:36:03 +0000

apparently Arkansas has offered Jon Gruden their open HC position. I didn’t want to post a link to another site, but it is out there for any interested. It was reported by a Arkansas TV station.

By: mikec1000000

mikec1000000 — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 14:29:31 +0000

Nick Saban is a great football mind, but he had a little help with the table being set when he arrived at UofA. Although Shula had issues with execution on the field, he recruited well and gave his successor a nice stable of athletes to orchestrate. A similar scenerio could be stated for the next hire at UT. As far as on the field execution, the Vols have made strides in certain areas of the game under Dooley, but have not met expectations. His major mistake was the change from a 4-3 to a 3-4. Sunseri is not a bad coach, but that type of overhaul on defense is difficult for NFL teams to manage in a single season. It’s even harder for an NCAA team. It was not good timing considering the team was just starting to gel under Dooley. With Dooley gone and a new hire to come, UT has some talented young men. I’m not saying someone will have the same quick success that Saban did, but a good football guy can come into Knoxville and get that group of guys together quickly.