Comments on: Big Bang Theories: The Countdown To Super-Conferences (Part 4)

By: DanHogan

DanHogan — Wed, 20 Feb 2013 16:05:48 +0000

@Roggespierre @edelswick @mowens75 @JRsec @AllTideUp And… to come full circle.. I could see ND doing some very small football-only scheduling arrangement with the Big East for November games. That might help the Big East keep Navy and maybe get another service academy on board (if they are still interested). It would be a great fit with the NBC deal they are working on.

By: Roggespierre

Roggespierre — Wed, 20 Feb 2013 15:54:52 +0000

@DanHogan @edelswick @mowens75 @JRsec @AllTideUp The ND C7 talk is indeed not seriously crazy. Notre Dame needs, what? – two home football dates every November? BYU, an on-again-off-again rival, is independent and ready to play. In fact, they have a home game scheduled this November. The service academies present additional options.

I think it could be done.

By: DanHogan

DanHogan — Wed, 20 Feb 2013 14:52:56 +0000

@edelswick @mowens75 @JRsec @AllTideUp @Roggespierre With the research partnerships that come from conference affiliation, I’d think the C7 would be out for both Duke and UNC. And, as bad as Duke has been in the past in football, they still do have football and need to get what they can from that investment. And I’d think that Duke couldn’t survive as any kind of independent at all. In a really weird world, maybe they could join the Big East in football only but that’s seriously crazy talk. Like, really nutty, even for conference realignment.

If anything, I’d think Notre Dame to the C7 is an interesting thought. They’d be trading a football requirement that might be little more than they might want with potential trouble scheduling games in November. I’d imagine even that won’t happen before they’d join the Big 12 on a partial basis, but it isn’t serious crazy talk.

By: edelswick

edelswick — Wed, 20 Feb 2013 14:46:02 +0000

@mowens75 @JRsec @AllTideUp @Roggespierre
Last time the Big1G expanded and took Maryland and Rutgers – yes they were AAU schools etc. But they both were the largest public institution in their state (with no close competitors), were located in a state that borders the Big1G’s current footprint, and had a high number of tv sets in-state.

Taking UNC and UVA makes a lot of sense for the Big1G. Except both schools share their state with other large universities. UVA with Virginia Tech (no ESPN, not with West Virginia). And the state of North Carolina has UNC, Duke, NCState, little Wake Forest – and East Carolina.

At the same time, since UNC and Duke focuses on basketball, I wonder if they would consider joining the Catholic 7? Probably not, but it would make a GREAT BASKETBALL conference.

By: Roggespierre

Roggespierre — Wed, 20 Feb 2013 02:04:13 +0000

@mowens75 @JRsec @AllTideUp Maybe, but it’s impossible to know. I assume that the Big Ten and the SEC have had conversations with North Carolina. Likewise, I believe that the Big Ten has been talking to Virginia and Georgia Tech for months. The fact that a source that has proven to be credible now says it’s happening is not a surprise.

The question is one of timing. If the moves are going to happen, then when? I see two possibilities. The obvious one is when the Maryland case is fully resolved, but it might happen sooner than that. If the court rules that the ACC can not legally withhold conference revenue distributions in anticipation of Maryland’s defection, then that might get the ball rolling. Making a lump sump payment, regardless of the amount, once the B1G money starts rolling in is one thing. Not getting revenue that you’re currently earning is another matter entirely.

By: mowens75

mowens75 — Wed, 20 Feb 2013 01:07:34 +0000

maybe…just maybe this is about to start again……. @JRsec @AllTideUp @Roggespierre
http://www.theuconnblog.com/2013/2/19/4005856/north-carolina-big-ten-realignment-uconn-acc

By: mowens75

mowens75 — Wed, 20 Feb 2013 00:55:16 +0000

maybe…just maybe this is about to start again…….
http://www.theuconnblog.com/2013/2/19/4005856/north-carolina-big-ten-realignment-uconn-acc

By: larryphelps20

larryphelps20 — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 18:37:26 +0000

@JRsec Disagree w/ you as to who the B1G invites. I see no situation in which they add Syracuse or Boston College. If they are gonna add non-AAU members like you suggest why wouldn’t they go for the non-AAU’s that are actually relevant? Specifically FSU.

By: JRsec

JRsec — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 02:55:59 +0000

@Roggespierre @AllTideUp @mowens75 They won’t even set a preliminary date until they meet next week.

By: JRsec

JRsec — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 02:54:22 +0000

@AllTideUp @mowens75 @Roggespierre The longer they drag it out now, the more casual and adoptive fans will fall by the wayside. People are tired of “change”. The conference leadership for all concerned would be wise to realize the zeitgeist and be quick and considerate in finishing.

By the way, the SEC is in unique position to eliminate a lot of angst by going to 24. The Big 10 can’t push the non-AAU thing too far and the PAC is simply too remote to accommodate West Virginia, Louisville, Cincinnati, or N.C. State should they find themselves hanging. I figure 64 kills any organized counter suit because of the demarcation of expenditures by those schools involved have definite cut offs at 60, 64, and 71.

By: mowens75

mowens75 — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 02:46:40 +0000

@AllTideUp @JRsec @Roggespierre I’m good with that.

By: mowens75

mowens75 — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 02:46:18 +0000

@Roggespierre @AllTideUp @JRsec I’ve wondered the same. It’s got to be by this Summer…right?

By: mowens75

mowens75 — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 02:45:24 +0000

@AllTideUp @JRsec @Roggespierre I’m good with that.

By: Roggespierre

Roggespierre — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 02:39:48 +0000

@AllTideUp @mowens75 @JRsec Yes. Let’s just hit the fast-forward button, shall we?

Anybody know how long we have to wait for the next step in the Maryland case? I haven’t seen anything that provides any kind of prediction regarding a timeline.

By: AllTideUp

AllTideUp — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 02:37:46 +0000

@mowens75 @JRsec @Roggespierre
I’m ready to move to 20 in all this business and be done with it.

Florida State, Clemson, UNC, Duke, Virginia Tech, Pitt

Let’s get it over with.

By: JRsec

JRsec — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 02:30:31 +0000

@Roggespierre @mowens75 @AllTideUp Tell him “War Eagle” for me. I admired a beautiful young lady from Iowa who was attending Auburn when I was there. She was a math major. Your friend has a lot of which to be proud. They don’t exactly hand out Summa Cum Laude honors to just any organic chemistry major at Auburn.

By: JRsec

JRsec — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 02:23:05 +0000

@Roggespierre @AllTideUp @mowens75 I’m partial to the hills in South central Tennessee and the people are great there too, but the farmland in Iowa is pretty too. I guess you have to like to grow things to appreciate that. And of course those Iowa farm girls aren’t bad either. Dinah Shore was from Winchester, Tennessee and I believe Donna Reed was an Iowa girl. I kind of miss the greatness of those days and the constant of the goodness of small town America.

By: Roggespierre

Roggespierre — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 02:21:55 +0000

@JRsec @mowens75 @AllTideUp Agreed. The rusting has been tough. I lived in Muncie, Indiana for several years. It was the home of Borg Warner transmission… before BW moved its entire operation to Mexico. I wouldn’t drive today in the neighborhood where I worked in 1993. But most of the people are much like you find in the South.

A guy I work with is a building engineer – a real blue collar guy from a long line of blue collar guys. His dad was a union electrician. His daughter just graduated summa cum laude from Auburn in organic chemistry. My buddy reports that the South has been very good to him and his family. He even brought me some Auburn gear from her commencement.

By: JRsec

JRsec — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 02:17:17 +0000

@Roggespierre @mowens75 @AllTideUp I lived up there years ago, and it was a bit different in the 60′s before the Belt started rusting. Hard to believe that was 50 years ago. The people were great. Good solid people like in the South (where I am native). The accents were different, and they didn’t want to know what your daddy and granddaddy did for a living but otherwise the values were about the same.

By: Roggespierre

Roggespierre — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 02:13:26 +0000

@JRsec @mowens75 @AllTideUp I doubt it. The high school football scene up there is not what many would expect. Lots of the top players are from the impoverished Rust Belt cities near Detroit. High school sports don’t really register. Ohio is unusual in the Midwest in terms of both the quality of and passion for high school football.

The Michigan situation is a lot like Indiana high school basketball in the northwestern part of the state (East Chicago and Gary). It’s not the stuff of Hoosiers (which does in fact exist elsewhere). In those locales, there’s a ton of hoops talent – urban, poor, raw, and likely often ineligible talent – that nobody goes to see.

By: JRsec

JRsec — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 02:10:24 +0000

@AllTideUp @Roggespierre @mowens75 It’s part of that culture that Urban Meyer is trying to bring to the Northern climbs. He stated its appeal in recruiting in an article I read yesterday. Southerners aren’t going to want to give up any Saturdays in the South.

By: Roggespierre

Roggespierre — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 02:07:34 +0000

@AllTideUp @JRsec @mowens75 It varies school by school. The norm in the SEC sounds a lot like what I’ve witnessed at Iowa. I did attend a game at Neyland Stadium once. It reminded me quite a bit of Iowa City, only prettier.

By: JRsec

JRsec — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 02:07:26 +0000

@Roggespierre @mowens75 @AllTideUp Good for Ohio, and I bet that state up North would feel the same.

By: JRsec

JRsec — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 02:06:03 +0000

@mowens75 @AllTideUp @Roggespierre The PAC is very anti religious, but takes its share of Federal funds which comes from Christians, Mormons, Jews, Muslims and a growing number of Sikhs, Buddhists, and Hindus. B.Y.U. is too remote to the Big 10 geographically to be considered there, and is not AAU. They would be a stretch for the SEC as well, but they would add many viewers to any network that carried them. But then there is the B.Y.U. channel which is a problem as well.

By: JRsec

JRsec — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 02:02:46 +0000

@mowens75 @AllTideUp @Roggespierre The PAC is very anti religious which is interesting to me since Mormons, Christians, Jews, and Muslims all pay taxes and make up the majority of citizens. Through in Hindu, Sikh, and Buddhist are in the mix too. The Geography doesn’t work for the Big 10 and would be a big stretch for the SEC although the national viewers would be a plus.

By: AllTideUp

AllTideUp — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 02:02:35 +0000

@Roggespierre @JRsec @mowens75
We like buying stuff on football weekends down here Seriously though, local economies are helped significantly by the tens of thousands of people flowing into town. Whether it’s all the hotels being full(at premium prices mind you), all the increased restaurant and bar traffic, or the vendors getting a boost in the immediate area of the stadium; game days are big business for a lot of people. I’m not sure how it works in B1G country, maybe there are more fans from the immediate locale up there, but most of the fans are driving in from other areas into the relatively small cities that are common in the SEC. They’re often driving in for night games as well which means it’s easier to stay the night in a hotel or advantageous to stock up on tailgating supplies and hang around on campus all day.

By: Roggespierre

Roggespierre — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 02:01:34 +0000

@JRsec @mowens75 @AllTideUp I know better than to expect Friday night football from the southern colleges. I don’t even think the Big Ten would go there. Few would care in some B1G states, but Ohio would never put up with it.

By: JRsec

JRsec — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 01:58:41 +0000

@Roggespierre @mowens75 @AllTideUp Also do not expect the SEC to play Friday night games. High School football is still very well respected and protected as a Friday night commodity in the Southeast and Southwest.

By: Roggespierre

Roggespierre — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 01:52:58 +0000

@JRsec @mowens75 @AllTideUp I overlooked this point, likely because I’m a northern guy. I have only heard about – and not actually seen – the support that local merchants provide to SEC schools. Perhaps I’m wrong, but it doesn’t seem to be such a significant consideration in the Big Ten. It certainly isn’t at the University of Maryland. Nobody comes do the games, so on site sales, hotels and the like aren’t a consideration at all.

By: mowens75

mowens75 — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 01:52:04 +0000

@JRsec @edelswick @AllTideUp Maybe FCS goes to Friday nights. Well if they do go to Tuesday then you just have the 3 or 4 conference alternate for 2 Thursday night games or just compete with each other.

By: JRsec

JRsec — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 01:50:18 +0000

@edelswick @mowens75 @AllTideUp @Roggespierre Remember Fox will likely carry PAC and Big 10 games, ESPN will have the SEC games. They will go head to head on Thursday and Friday. Tuesday will be reserved for FCS.

By: mowens75

mowens75 — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 01:50:11 +0000

@JRsec @Roggespierre @AllTideUp i can see that all being true, but maybe they just do one SEC game on Thursday nights and one B1G game on Tuesday nights. Also maybe add the other 2 conferences on the same nights.

By: JRsec

JRsec — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 01:47:45 +0000

@mowens75 @Roggespierre @AllTideUp Week night games are not going to appease the merchants who significantly back these schools with local advertising and promotions and athletic contributions. As we move to only upper tier games, and until Spring games are replaced with an FCS opponent for a true preseason game, these merchants will be giving up 1/7th of their Fall income with the loss of that 7th home game to a 6 home 6 away all upper tier schedule. Neutral site games are a loss as well. The data proves that Thursday night games don’t yield as much in restaurant, hotel, and souvenirs sales.

By: mowens75

mowens75 — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 01:45:46 +0000

@edelswick @AllTideUp @Roggespierre @JRsec No Monday night games because it would be competing with NFL.

By: mowens75

mowens75 — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 01:43:56 +0000

@JRsec @AllTideUp @Roggespierre So TCU and Wake Forest don’t make the cut from the Big Conferences. Which I agree with, but still think BYU would possibly make it somehow. The issue is the PAC will probably not take them even if they can bring more money than most might think.

By: edelswick

edelswick — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 01:43:16 +0000

@mowens75 @AllTideUp @Roggespierre @JRsec
After the 1st ACC raided the Big East back in 2002 timeframe, the Big East agreed to do a Friday night game with ESPN. Yes – at that time, having a night game during the week was bad for the teams – but in terms of media exposure it was great..

This time around, would expect ESPN to go about this one conference for each night. Say Big1G on Monday night, SEC on Tuesday night…

By: JRsec

JRsec — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 01:42:06 +0000

@Roggespierre @AllTideUp @mowens75 That will be true for about 1/4 to 1/3 of the PAC games as well.

By: mowens75

mowens75 — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 01:37:03 +0000

@Roggespierre @AllTideUp @JRsec I know your talking to AllTideUp, but I wouldn’t mind bama playing on Thursday night. I love Thursday night games.

By: JRsec

JRsec — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 01:35:22 +0000

@mowens75 @AllTideUp @Roggespierre The money says 3 x 20, or Big 10 (20), PAC (20), SEC (24)
Big 10
Atlantic: Georgia Tech, Maryland, Miami, Penn State, Virginia
New England: Boston College, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Rutgers, Syracuse
Great Lakes: Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Purdue
Plains: Illinois, Iowa, Nebraska, Northwestern, Wisconsin

PAC
East: iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State
South: Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Texas, Texas Tech
West: California, U.C.L.A., U.S.C., Stanford, Nevada
North: Oregon, Oregon State, Utah, Washington, Washington State

SEC
North: Duke, Kentucky, North Carolina, Pittsburgh, Virginia Tech, West Virginia
East: Auburn, Florida, Georgia, N.C. State, South Carolina, Vanderbilt
South: Alabama, Clemson, Florida State, Louisville, Mississippi State, Tennessee
West: Arkansas, Baylor, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Missouri, Texas A&M

I’m not saying these will be the teams, just that the organization and make up of the three conferences will look something like this.
By going to 3 conferences each team present will net close to 2 million more per year.

By: Roggespierre

Roggespierre — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 01:34:49 +0000

@AllTideUp @mowens75 @JRsec I don’t think you need to worry about the Tide playing on Thursday nights any time soon. Florida, LSU and Georgia are likely in the same boat.

But a Thursday night game could do some nice things for Missouri, Kentucky, and the Mississippi schools. Heck, State used to play all the time on Thursday nights back in the Jackie Sherrill days. Joe Lee Dunn’s big mug was on my TV as often as Jerry Seinfeld.

By: Roggespierre

Roggespierre — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 01:31:34 +0000

@DanHogan @AllTideUp @Roggespierre @mowens75 @JRsec I’ll keep an open mind. As a Purdue fan, it pains me to see schools like Virginia Tech, Rutgers and Louisville rising in the national consciousness even as my Boilermakers lapse further into mediocrity. Those schools improved their fortunes largely by playing on Thursday nights. One of them is about to become a Big Ten school and the others typically recruit on par with everybody in the conference except for OSU and Michigan.

If we’re going to compete, then let’s compete. The Spartans are going to lose a national game when Notre Dame drops them. Purdue will likely suffer the same fate some day. It’s high time that we stop depending on the Irish and instead take matters into our own hands. For schools that aren’t Michigan and OSU, Thursday nights could provide significant benefits.

By: AllTideUp

AllTideUp — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 01:22:29 +0000

@Roggespierre @mowens75 @JRsec
I would love 10 conference games myself. Even with an expanded conference there are many more opportunities for preserving rivalries and scheduling big games. I’d even be in favor of inviting the ‘in-state’ rivals from the ACC just to help preserve some great games as well as bringing additional strong Southern programs into the fold.

If realignment can give us more quality games then I think it’s a overall win for the fans even if a few things get shaken up.

By: DanHogan

DanHogan — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 01:21:05 +0000

@AllTideUp @Roggespierre @mowens75 @JRsec As a Michigan State grad, the games on the Friday night of Labor Day weekend has been really cool. But, Thursday eve of other weeks? Nah. That’s Big East territory right there.

By: mowens75

mowens75 — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 01:20:53 +0000

@AllTideUp @Roggespierre @JRsec I actually don’t think I would mind the occasional Thursday night game. Maybe they set it as you can only play one a year. I know if I was tailgating I wouldn’t like it, but for TV I don’t mind it.

By: AllTideUp

AllTideUp — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 01:17:40 +0000

@Roggespierre @mowens75 @JRsec
There have been some rumblings about ESPN featuring SEC games on their standard Thursday night broadcast. I would hate that actually because the idea of my school playing on Thur instead of Sat is an annoying one. I know others feel the same. I wouldn’t mind that sort of thing to kick the season off or occasionally for schools that need additional exposure, but it would be a hassle for schools accustomed to playing marquee games on Sat.

By: Roggespierre

Roggespierre — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 00:52:18 +0000

@mowens75 @JRsec @AllTideUp Incidentally, thanks for the link. I also think you might be on to something regarding the holdup of the SEC and the networks wanting more games. I would revise that only to say that the networks want more high-quality games.

Remember a couple years ago when Florida/Miami of Ohio was telecast nationally on opening weekend? Did anybody outside of die-hard Gator fans want to see that game? I watched a little bit of it – it was, after all, college football – but I would much rather have watched Florida play a name opponent.

By: Roggespierre

Roggespierre — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 00:46:50 +0000

@mowens75 @JRsec @AllTideUp This makes perfect sense from the Big Ten perspective. It’ll make sense for the SEC, too, just as soon as the SEC Network is up and running.

There is no reason to pay millions in guarantees to the likes of Eastern Michigan and Louisiana-Lafayette when you can play each other, pack the house, and add high quality content to your network lineup.

I’m skeptical about the claim that Big Ten coaches want more night games. I think it’s the BTN that wants more night games. Right now, the 3rd tier games compete with each other on Saturday afternoons on the various BTN sub-channels that are telecast within the conference footprint. For people like me who live outside that footprint, it’s a frustrating situation. For example, I really wanted to see the IU/Purdue Old Oaken Bucket game on the final weekend of the season. But the main BTN channel that I get here in Maryland carried Illinois-Northwestern.

The day will soon come, I think, when the BTN will have Thursday night games, as well. If the alternative on ESPN is a watered down ACC tilt, then the Big Ten would do well to step up with some competition. The SEC might consider doing the same thing, although it will be more difficult given its ESPN relationship.

By: mowens75

mowens75 — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 00:36:07 +0000

It’s almost here…… @JRsec @AllTideUp @Roggespierre
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/21687617/big-ten-to-expand-conference-schedule
Once we start going to 10 game conference schedules then the little guys are out. This is the beginning of the end of the NCAA football as we know it. Only 3-4 Super Conferences with 16-20 teams in each. SEC will announce soon after the B1G agrees to 10 conference games. I think that’s part of the hold up with the SEC because the networks want more games.
Best guess….
4 Super conference with 16 teams each and in the end I think Big 12 goes away before ACC. I just think Texas does what it wants and Notre Dame keeps ACC together by joining in football (only because it has too in the end). I do think B1G goes after an ACC school or a few. SEC maybe grabs a couple ACC and a couple Big 12 schools. 4 Big 12 schools go to the PAC 12.
Should be fun. Really Wish we could have 4 Super Conferences of 16 and everyone else out. Keep 2 divisions (8 teams) in each conference and play 10 conference games (7 and 3 w/1 team being perm and rotating yearly the other 2 or maybe no perm. Not needed with new divisions). Also in the end have 2 from each division make the playoffs. So SEC would have……
1st place West vs 2nd place West or East (games played at home of 1st place team)
1st place East vs 2nd place West or East
Then winners play for final 4 birth. (game played in ATL)
This is a lot like NFL, but in the end works best.
SEC East – Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Kentucky, Florida, Georgia, USC and one of the following in this order (Carolina School, V Tech, Vandy or Florida St)
SEC West – LSU, A&M, Arkansas, Mississippi, Miss. St, Missouri, Vandy and one or two of the following in this order (Kansas, Oklahoma or Kansas St).
Dream scenario would be add UNC and Kansas. Not likely…but I can dream. Would love to add to Bball and really think UNC could be great in football if in the SEC one day (becuase good recruiting area).
So basically if you could have16 teams per 4 conferences this would work. Right now with the 5 big conferences you have 64 teams (which equals 16×4), but that’s not including Notre Dame, BYU, Connecticut, Cincinnatti, Boise St, Memphis and maybe USF.So I think some of the 64 teams might be replaced with the ones mentioned above. I would say maybe 4-5 with Notre Dame and BYU being definite.
What should happen in my opinion is ACC would lose 2 Duke and Wake (could join Big East 7/Catholic 7 in B’ball conference. Big 12 lose TCU and Baylor and don’t scream, but SEC lose Miss. St. ( not a lot of revenue and Mississippi really only needs one big football school). That opens 5 spots that would go to Irish, BYU, UConn, Cinnci and ……So maybe you just need to lose 4, but maybe Memphis.
So now you have….
SEC
1 ALABAMA 2 AUBURN 3 TENNESSEE 4 KENTUCKY 5 FLORIDA 6 GEORGIA 7 SOUTH CAROLINA 8 NORTH CAROLINA
9 LSU 10 VANDERBILT 11 MISSISSIPPI 12 ARKANSAS 13 TEXAS A&M 14 MISSOURI 15 OKLAHOMA 16 KANSAS
B1G
1 MICHIGAN 2 MICHIGAN ST 3 ILLINOIS 4 NORTHWESTERN 5 NEBRASKA 6 WISCONSIN 7 MINNESOTA 8 IOWA
9 INDIANA 10 PURDUE 11 PENN ST 12 RUTGERS 13 MARYLAND 14 OHIO ST 15 VIRGINIA 16 GEORGIA TECH
PAC 16
1 USC 2 UCLA 3 ARIZONA 4 ARIZONA ST 5 COLORADO 6 TEXAS 7 OKLAHOMA ST 8 TEXAS TECH
9 STANFORD 10 CALIFORNIA 11 UTAH 12 BYU 13 OREGON 14 OREGON ST 15 WASHINGTON 16 WASHINGTON ST
ACC
1 MIAMI 2 FLORIDA ST 3 CLEMSON 4 NC STATE 5 VIRGINIA TECH 6 WEST VIRGINIA 7 LOUSIVILLE 8 MEMPHIS (Maybe replace w/Duke)
9 PITT 10 CONNECTICUT 11 BOSTON COLLEGE 12 SYRACUSE 13 NOTRE DAME 14 CINCINNATI 15 KANSAS ST 16 IOWA ST

Maybe replace Oklahoma back with MSU and move Oklahome to PAC 16 to replace BYU.
Then we have a playoff of 16 teams and one of each confence making the final 4. Each plays 10 conference games and 2 more games against others conference. Each team will have 6 home games and more revenue because they no longer have to share with the smaller schools. Then the max games you play would be 16.
YES…I’m a nerd about this stuff, but it would work.
Thanks!

By: mowens75

mowens75 — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 00:24:19 +0000

It’s almost here……
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/21687617/big-ten-to-expand-conference-schedule
Once we start going to 10 game conference schedules then the little guys are out. This is the beginning of the end of the NCAA football as we know it. Only 3-4 Super Conferences with 16-20 teams in each. SEC will announce soon after the B1G agrees to 10 conference games. I think that’s part of the hold up with the SEC because the networks want more games.
Best guess….
4 Super conference with 16 teams each and in the end I think Big 12 goes away before ACC. I just think Texas does what it wants and Notre Dame keeps ACC together by joining in football (only because it has too in the end). I do think B1G goes after an ACC school or a few. SEC maybe grabs a couple ACC and a couple Big 12 schools. 4 Big 12 schools go to the PAC 12.
Should be fun. Really Wish we could have 4 Super Conferences of 16 and everyone else out. Keep 2 divisions (8 teams) in each conference and play 10 conference games (7 and 3 w/1 team being perm and rotating yearly the other 2 or maybe no perm. Not needed with new divisions). Also in the end have 2 from each division make the playoffs. So SEC would have……
1st place West vs 2nd place West or East (games played at home of 1st place team)
1st place East vs 2nd place West or East
Then winners play for final 4 birth. (game played in ATL)
This is a lot like NFL, but in the end works best.
SEC East – Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Kentucky, Florida, Georgia, USC and one of the following in this order (Carolina School, V Tech, Vandy or Florida St)
SEC West – LSU, A&M, Arkansas, Mississippi, Miss. St, Missouri, Vandy and one or two of the following in this order (Kansas, Oklahoma or Kansas St).
Dream scenario would be add UNC and Kansas. Not likely…but I can dream. Would love to add to Bball and really think UNC could be great if in the SEC one day.
So basically if you could 16 teams per 4 conferences this would work. Right now with the 5 big conferences you have 64 teams (which equals 16×4), but that’s not including Notre Dame, BYU, Connecticut, Cincinnatti, Boise St, Memphis and maybe USF.So think some of the 64 teams might be replaced with these ones mentioned. I would say maybe 4-5 with Notre Dame and BYU being definite.
What should happen in my opinion is ACC would lose 2 Duke and Wake (could join Big East 7/Catholic 7 in B’ball conference. Big 12 lose TCU and Baylor and don’t scream, but SEC lose Miss. St. ( not a lot of revenue and Mississippi really only needs one big school). That opens 5 spots that would go to Irish, BYU, UConn, Cinnci and ……So maybe you just need to lose 4, but maybe Memphis.
So now you have….
SEC
1 ALABAMA 2 AUBURN 3 TENNESSEE 4 KENTUCKY 5 FLORIDA 6 GEORGIA 7 SOUTH CAROLINA 8 NORTH CAROLINA
9 LSU 10 VANDERBILT 11 MISSISSIPPI 12 ARKANSAS 13 TEXAS A&M 14 MISSOURI 15 OKLAHOMA 16 KANSAS
B1G
1 MICHIGAN 2 MICHIGAN ST 3 ILLINOIS 4 NORTHWESTERN 5 NEBRASKA 6 WISCONSIN 7 MINNESOTA 8 IOWA
9 INDIANA 10 PURDUE 11 PENN ST 12 RUTGERS 13 MARYLAND 14 OHIO ST 15 VIRGINIA 16 GEORGIA TECH
PAC 16
1 USC 2 UCLA 3 ARIZONA 4 ARIZONA ST 5 COLORADO 6 TEXAS 7 OKLAHOMA ST 8 TEXAS TECH
9 STANFORD 10 CALIFORNIA 11 UTAH 12 BYU 13 OREGON 14 OREGON ST 15 WASHINGTON 16 WASHINGTON ST
ACC
1 MIAMI 2 FLORIDA ST 3 CLEMSON 4 NC STATE 5 VIRGINIA TECH 6 WEST VIRGINIA 7 LOUSIVILLE 8 MEMPHIS (Maybe replace w/Duke)
9 PITT 10 CONNECTICUT 11 BOSTON COLLEGE 12 SYRACUSE 13 NOTRE DAME 14 CINCINNATI 15 KANSAS ST 16 IOWA ST

Maybe replace Oklahoma back with MSU and move Oklahome to PAC 16 to replace BYU.
Then we have a playoff of 16 teams and one of each confence making the final 4. Each plays 10 conference games and 2 more games against others conference. Each team will have 6 home games and more revenue because they no longer have to share with the smaller schools. Then the max games you play would be 16.
YES…I’m a nerd about this stuff, but it would work.
Thanks!

By: Roggespierre

Roggespierre — Sat, 26 Jan 2013 03:13:07 +0000

@AllTideUp @edelswick I did forget about hockey. Now that the NHL is back, it does lend some credibility to NBCSN.