Comments on: MrSEC.com Commitment Comparator – 1/10/13

By: bvkv09

bvkv09 — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:05:14 +0000

Thanks John!

By: How Do SEC Teams Have More Than 25 Commitments? Back-Counting

How Do SEC Teams Have More Than 25 Commitments? Back-Counting — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 19:11:04 +0000

[...] the past month, we’ve had a few folks ask us about our SEC Commitment Comparators. “How do some SEC teams have more than 25 commitments when there’s a 25-man cap on [...]

By: John at MrSEC

John at MrSEC — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:42:23 +0000

@bvkv09 @KY_Daktari

A&M got no leeway.

A&M signed 19 players last year. So that would mean they could sign up to 31 players this year if six of this year’s signees enrolled early and were back-counted to last year’s group. (19+6=25 in 2011, 31-6=25 in 2012)

So how is A&M at 34 commitments right now? Well, if all three of those extra players sign, then it would mean three of A&M’s 2012 signees were early enrollees who counted back to 2011. In essence, A&M would have added three 2012 signees to 2011, it would have had a 16-person class in 2012, and the school could grab a total of 34 players this year.

I’m not familiar with exactly how many Aggies actually enrolled early last year, but hopefully this gives you a clearer idea of how the process works.

Thanks for reading the site,
John

By: John at MrSEC

John at MrSEC — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:38:54 +0000

@bvkv09 @KY_Daktari

A&M signed 19 players last year. So that would mean they could sign up to 31 players this year if six enrolled early and were back-counted to last year’s group.

So how is A&M at 34 commitments right now? Well, if all three of those players sign, then it would mean three of last year’s signees were early enrollees who counted back to 2011. In essence, A&M would have added three signees to 2011, it would have a 16-person class in 2012, and the school could grab a total of 34 players this year.

I’m not familiar with how many Aggies actually enrolled early last year, but hopefully this will give you a clearer idea of how the process works.

Thanks for reading the site,
John

By: bvkv09

bvkv09 — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:22:23 +0000

@John at MrSEC @KY_Daktari did they really only sign 15 players last year, or is there some sort of leeway for them coming into the league?

By: alamoaggie08

alamoaggie08 — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:44:32 +0000

@KY_Daktari
besides the early enrollies, if i’m not mistaken the number of players a school signs can average out over the years. for example, (and for the sake of a round number) suppose the limit is 30 per year. if a school undersigns with 25 one year, they can sign up to 35 the next year or have 5 extra to use over a certain number of years. don’t count me that and i can’t be sure those are the exact facts, but i do believe i have read something along that line. i’m sure john’s explanation will be much more clear.

By: GeoffDawg

GeoffDawg — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:36:33 +0000

@Tired of waiting Judging by the number of comments posted, your opinion seems to be in the minority.

By: GeoffDawg

GeoffDawg — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:34:51 +0000

@KY_Daktari Georgia’s in the same boat but with a soft cap of 28, if you can get some to enroll early, they can count towards last year’s class.

By: SEC fan

SEC fan — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:20:59 +0000

@j_scott_o @KY_Daktari
Will await John’s article but EE or not, still think you can only sign 25 per year.

By: j_scott_o

j_scott_o — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:29:58 +0000

@John at MrSEC @Tired of waiting
A-men John! You guys do an outstanding job on this site. This site, along w/ an Aggie site, are my daily early morning coffee stops. Ok, I visit this site several times a day b/c you guys are great at updates as well! Keep up the good work and keep us on the edge of our seats! I can wait for accurate news.

By: VolTN

VolTN — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:29:40 +0000

@Tired of waiting I wouldn’t say ‘nobody cares’. I care, because I like to see how my school is comparing to others in the conference.

By: j_scott_o

j_scott_o — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:15:02 +0000

@KY_Daktari
Quick update. I just made my daily visit to an A&M site and read where Sumlin just announced 9 early enrollees. So, there you go. 34-9=25.

By: John at MrSEC

John at MrSEC — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:13:32 +0000

@Tired of waiting

Hmmm. It seems you feel you can TELL us what to do. I’ll send you our PO Box, you can send us a check for, say, $1000 bucks, and then we’ll be happy to take your “request.” But if you don’t like the site, don’t read it. We post 1000s of stories a year. I’d say only about 20 of them deal with expansion or realignment… and that’s when expansion/realignment is in the news or when we’re hearing it’s about to be in the news.

We post stories when we feel confident in the information we’ve gathered, not before. I told another person in a comment section earlier this week that Part 4 would go up this week. That’s still the plan as the story is being worked on today. But if we get some conflicting info from what we’ve heard already, we’re going to have to confirm that info.

In other words, we’d rather be accurate than fast. And we’re not interested in just throwing any old junk out there for the sake of getting pageviews.

John

By: j_scott_o

j_scott_o — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:10:17 +0000

@KY_Daktari
In a nutshell, early enrollees and borrowing scholarships from previous years that were/are not used. I also think when players go pro, like Moore & Joeckel, that frees up a scholarship for 1 year too. Anyway, there are articles out there on this and I’m sure “John at MrSEC” will go into a lot more detail. Really looking forward to that article b/c this is a question asked A LOT on various boards.

By: John at MrSEC

John at MrSEC — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:06:16 +0000

@KY_Daktari

I’ll answer this in a separate post.

Thanks for reading the site,
John

By: KY_Daktari

KY_Daktari — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:54:13 +0000

Am I missing something? How can A&M have 34 commits? Isn’t the limit like 24-25? I know it’s common to oversign some, but 10 seems excessive

By: Tired of waiting

Tired of waiting — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:34:04 +0000

Nobody cares. Write Part 4.

By: I4Bama

I4Bama — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:26:07 +0000

Vanderbilt, Carolina, Mississippi, and Alabama still have a lot room to move. Anything can happen at Auburn, but if Malzhan moves much higher he will have been worth the risk, at least for now. I would be surprised if all of those first four do not finish strongly. Rivals already has five SEC schools in the top ten, and it would be difficult for anyone not already there to do it, but each of those four should at least land in the top fifteen-twenty.