Comments on: SEC Bowl Observations: VU, LSU, MSU, USC, And UGA

By: kellyk1

kellyk1 — Sat, 05 Jan 2013 20:00:31 +0000

@TremontReb Maybe y’all shouldn’t schedule Texas and get your a$$ whipped.

By: NatanElias

NatanElias — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 20:05:43 +0000

@John at MrSEC My error in the way I stated it. But I don’t retract my assertion: Vanderbilt’s juniors and seniors would not play at 70% of the other SEC schools.

By: TremontReb

TremontReb — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 16:09:33 +0000

Maybe MS State needs to schedule Jackson St and Troy more often. Well, maybe not Troy, Troy should have beaten them.

By: John at MrSEC

John at MrSEC — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 15:02:07 +0000

@NatanElias

I didn’t write “stacked roster.” I said a “roster stacked with juniors and seniors.” Huge difference. One implies that there was talent all over the VU roster, the other states that Franklin inherited a lot of veterans and older players.

John

By: NatanElias

NatanElias — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 14:16:43 +0000

A “stacked roster” at Vanderbilt? The recruiting rankings over the years demonstrate that is equivalent to nearly having only 3rd teamers elsewhere. I’m no Vanderbilt fan but am objective enough to say that no coach is in a place harder to win and has done more with less, not Spurrier nor Richt nor Saban. Franklin deserved coach of the year.

Then to say that Bryant and Spurrier are the “two greatest SEC coaches of the modern era”, and leave out Saban? That’s ridiculous. He had to rebuild Alabama when he arrived — which admittedly was easier than building USC — but he has taken them farther as well, and has done so repeatedly. So the statement should have been “the THREE greatest SEC coaches … ” and included him.

Finally, I don’t feel sorry for Les Miles — he is lying in the bed he made. It is his own decisions that earned him the name “The Mad Hatter”. Had the losses been do to “bad luck” or events like the first down call for Michigan, he would deserve sympathy. But he frequently manages to lose a crucial game with his own poor judgment.

By: GeoffDawg

GeoffDawg — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 13:41:15 +0000

@buddha22 I don’t disagree with you but outside of Tony Dungy, no one projects him to go nearly that high. The recent projections from the NFL advisory committee have him as a likely third round selection.

By: viciousdawg

viciousdawg — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 13:12:53 +0000

@buddha22 @GeoffDawg I think Murray would be a top 5 pick. The first 5 teams need a Qb.

By: 10Vol85

10Vol85 — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 01:51:58 +0000

“As you know by now, the Commodores’ win in the Music City Bowl secured the program its best season since way back in 1915.”

I’m not sure where this information comes from but it’s way off. The 1922 Southern Conference champs were 8-0-1. I think we can safely say they had a better season. Most wins - yes. Best team – not by a long shot. 17 Vandy teams since 1915 (most in the 20 years or so immediately thereafter) have had a better winning percentage. 30 teams since then had less losses (4 teams undefeated (though 2 were in the war years), 5 with one loss, 9 with 2 losses and 12 with 3 losses).

By: buddha22

buddha22 — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 01:14:34 +0000

@GeoffDawg Sorry, if he rates a 1 st rd how can he stay? If he rates top 10 picks, he hits the lotto.

By: Klesko4MVP

Klesko4MVP — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 00:11:57 +0000

I can tell you why Murray needs to go pro in two words – Matt Barkley. Barkley came back for his senior year and look what it cost him. Murray is guaranteed millions if he goes pro now. He could lose almost all of it on one bad hit next year. You do not need an education to figure that one out.

By: GeoffDawg

GeoffDawg — Wed, 02 Jan 2013 21:53:43 +0000

Thanks for the clarification on the bizarre call in the Outback Bowl. One wonders if the official suffered some kind of mini-stroke prior to that ruling. Regarding Murray, I’m not so convinced that he’s going to turn pro even with the poor QB class this year. Just playing the odds, he’ll likely be a career backup in the NFL with a tenure lasting 3 or 4 years. If I’m not mistaken, if he comes back next season, he’ll have the opportunity to complete his graduate studies and still have a shot at the NFL for 2014. Just reading his statements concerning the value he and his family place on education and keeping your options open over the last couple of years give me reason to hope he’ll return.